The Tragic Beauty of Google+
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The Tragic Beauty of Google+
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Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#2If this was the case, they'd fix the accounts system. Nothing I do on the web is ever tied to my G+ account because I have 5 different Google accounts and it's a crapshoot which one I'm signed into at any given time. One thing is for sure, though, that I'm never signed into the one that my Google+ account is tied to since you couldn't use Google apps accounts at launch to sign up for G+.
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#3This is bizarre. This piece insinuates, with not a shred of evidence, that Google+ identity data is linked to Google Analytics data, and there is zero evidence that this is the case, or that it even makes any sense. (For starters, Google Analytics tracking code never touches the google.com domain in any kind of way and thus couldn't be used to link to account information.)
Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#4This is bizarre. This piece insinuates, with not a shred of evidence, that Google+ identity data is linked to Google Analytics data, and there is zero evidence that this is the case, or that it even makes any sense. (For starters, Google Analytics tracking code never touches the google.com domain in any kind of way and thus couldn't be used to link to account information.)
Then how come I need to be on google.com to view the analytics data? I'd love to be wrong about this and will correct.
Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#5If this was the case, they'd fix the accounts system. Nothing I do on the web is ever tied to my G+ account because I have 5 different Google accounts and it's a crapshoot which one I'm signed into at any given time. One thing is for sure, though, that I'm never signed into the one that my Google+ account is tied to since you couldn't use Google apps accounts at launch to sign up for G+.
You're in the minority and I'd suspect your anomalous data is lost in the noise.
While I think Google+ came out the gate as a budding Facebook killer, and given the initial internal alignment of the company tying everyone's yearly bonus to its success, I suspect Google was hoping for exactly that, no matter how much retro conning the tech bloggers spin.
Because the two things that killed Google+'s chances were first the ridiculous real names debacle which was a literal turd in the punchbowl corporate move, followed shortly thereafter by internally flip-flopping and reassigning the bonus for Google+'s success to the Google+ team and the Google+ team alone, safely ensconced away from the googler scum in their tawp sekrit(tm) tower on the Googleplex.
Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#6If this was the case, they'd fix the accounts system. Nothing I do on the web is ever tied to my G+ account because I have 5 different Google accounts and it's a crapshoot which one I'm signed into at any given time. One thing is for sure, though, that I'm never signed into the one that my Google+ account is tied to since you couldn't use Google apps accounts at launch to sign up for G+.
This. This. This. Constantly I am being pleaded with to create a Google+ account, although I already have one. Google's inability to effectively combine accounts is one of my greatest frustrations.
Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#7This is bizarre. This piece insinuates, with not a shred of evidence, that Google+ identity data is linked to Google Analytics data, and there is zero evidence that this is the case, or that it even makes any sense. (For starters, Google Analytics tracking code never touches the google.com domain in any kind of way and thus couldn't be used to link to account information.)
Then how come I need to be on google.com to view the analytics data? I'd love to be wrong about this and will correct.
The Google Analytics JavaScript is hosted on google-analytics.com, as is the Google Analytics pixel.
Google Analytics cookies are first-party cookies, so are tied to the domain of the website you're on, not Google.
Google Analytics data, unless manipulated to be otherwise by the end user with a manual customization, is not systematically tied to personalized Google+ traffic information. There's never been any evidence otherwise, and honestly, the burden of proof is typically on the accuser when making these kinds of accusations, so, really, I flip the question to you and ask what evidence do you have for this accusation besides insinuation and conspiratorial instinct?
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#8I have hit a "tragic" bug of Google+ and I don't even have Google+. It is this one:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chat/tA22alXeQ...
I found out that my elderly mother for the last couple of days could not message me via Google's chat. And I couldn't message her. It was very odd. Eventually after a day of messing with it I noticed that her status was "blocked on Google+".
The kicker is, I never signed up for Google+ and neither signed her up for Google+. Nothing was fixed for days. The only work-around I found was to ... surpise... create a Google+ account. And lo and behold, my mother and other small group of friends ended up in the list of Google+ blocked list. Apparently Google+ block list also overrides regular block lists from other services and does it silently.
Of course I created the stupid Google+ account, unblocked the contacts then immediately deleted it. But it certainly left with a nasty taste in my mouth. It almost seems like a sneaky attempt to make me sign up for Google+.
I kept hearing of stories about people's accounts being locked and them losing their email, contacts, and other data and always thought it was just odd random incidents, now I am starting to get worried. It seems Google is become more aggressive and cavalier with my profile and my data.
(yes, yes, I know I am not paying for it, it is free and I am not a customer, I am the product being sold to their real customers -- the ad buyers).
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then how come I need to be on google.com to view the analytics data? I'd love to be wrong about this and will correct.
The Google Analytics JavaScript is hosted on google-analytics.com, as is the Google Analytics pixel. Google Analytics cookies are first-party cookies, so are tied to the domain of the website you're on, not Google. Google Analytics data, unless manipulated to be otherwise by the end user with a manual customization, is not systematically tied to personalized Google+ traffic information. There's never been any evidenc…
Fair. I updated the post.
UPDATE: Edited again per the info in this thread; Google Analytics does track Google+
Re: The Tragic Beauty of Google+
#10"it’s an identity system that follows you everywhere"
Yeah, that really sounds like a good thing...