CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
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CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
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#3As far as I know, the only thing that repeal or limit an Amendment is another Amendment.
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
#4Correct me if I am wrong (or naïve), but wouldn't the US Supreme Court strike down a law that violates the Constitution, or at least invalidate it? How can a law apply that violates the Constitution? As far as I know, the only thing that repeal or limit an Amendment is another Amendment.
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
#5Guns, gun sales, nada. Massive loopholes in background checks, no monitoring, no database.
Boston "terrorists" were on watch list for two years, bought guns and explosives right out of stores.
ps. url clearly shows /2012/04/26/ but always a good reminder
I mean congress just voted back insider trading for themselves without penalties, who is watching these people?
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
#6Correct me if I am wrong (or naïve), but wouldn't the US Supreme Court strike down a law that violates the Constitution, or at least invalidate it? How can a law apply that violates the Constitution? As far as I know, the only thing that repeal or limit an Amendment is another Amendment.
http://fourthamendment.com/blog/index.php?blog=1&title=s... is a good but depressing overview.
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
#7Correct me if I am wrong (or naïve), but wouldn't the US Supreme Court strike down a law that violates the Constitution, or at least invalidate it? How can a law apply that violates the Constitution? As far as I know, the only thing that repeal or limit an Amendment is another Amendment.
In that time the government could do a lot of damage with one law, and when the law is threatened to be declared unconstitutional, they'll just argue for how "useful" that law was in catching criminals, terrorists, etc. It's been done before.
Look at FISA. NSA gets a "general warrant" (notion that hasn't even been criticized much yet), to spy on everyone that talks to foreigners online or on the phone...which is what, 90% of the US population? The loophole is incredible. Yet the Senate rushed it through with no debate, until 2017. And then they'll try to rush it through again.
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
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#9Internet which poses no immediate physical threat to anyone, heavily monitored. Guns, gun sales, nada. Massive loopholes in background checks, no monitoring, no database. Boston "terrorists" were on watch list for two years, bought guns and explosives right out of stores. ps. url clearly shows /2012/04/26/ but always a good reminder I mean congress just voted back insider trading for themselves without penalties, who…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic...
Edit: You added the question "who is watching these people?"... Do you think that loss of accountability might coincide with increasingly inequitable access to the practical and proportional means of defense against threats to private property and an individual's physical safety (ie, the right to defend yourself, not just plead for the help of a third party)?
I agree with you that the current situation is a subject for comedy: http://boingboing.net/2013/04/24/tom-the-dancing-bug-usas-gu...
Re: CISPA passed in sneak attack,deletes the 4th Amendment.
#10Correct me if I am wrong (or naïve), but wouldn't the US Supreme Court strike down a law that violates the Constitution, or at least invalidate it? How can a law apply that violates the Constitution? As far as I know, the only thing that repeal or limit an Amendment is another Amendment.
Maybe. But since US doesn't have a Constitutional Court, and only a Supreme Court, it could take a decade or more before the issue is even brought up, and then accepted by the Supreme Court. In that time the government could do a lot of damage with one law, and when the law is threatened to be declared unconstitutional, they'll just argue for how "useful" that law was in catching criminals, terrorists, etc. It's been…
Actually I'd really like to see how much of the population something like FISA actually applies to.