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Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

> It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system

It's very difficult to say that with any level of certainty -- The Null Hypothesis in Education is Hard to Disprove http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-null-hypothesis-in-educa...

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

> It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system It's very difficult to say that with any level of certainty -- The Null Hypothesis in Education is Hard to Disprove http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-null-hypothesis-in-educa...

There is no correlation between the blog comment you linked to and the statement you're quoting. Your comment boils down to little more than saying "Not true!"

If you want to make the point that bolstering public education is a wasted effort, then think of countries like Finland or Norway who have an excellent public educational system. Go on vacation there, and you'll be surprised, for instance, how well the average person there speaks English. Now compare this to the US or the UK where people usually don't bother learning a second language, and your average shop clerk has a hard enough time communicating in his mother tongue.

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

>Cornell NYC Tech has received “an incredibly generous,” $133-million gift from two Cornell alumni

Well when the donor is an alum from said elites-only institution, we can't realistically expect this kind of money to go anywhere else.

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

I disagree that Cornell is an elites-only institution. Besides, how would you have spent the money within the CUNY system? According to [1], their FY14 budget is $2.154B, so $133M would be a 6% bump for FY14. Any ideas?

[1] http://www.cuny.edu/about/administration/offices/bf/fy2014-s...

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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post #6

It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

I disagree that Cornell is an elites-only institution. Besides, how would you have spent the money within the CUNY system? According to [1], their FY14 budget is $2.154B, so $133M would be a 6% bump for FY14. Any ideas? [1] http://www.cuny.edu/about/administration/offices/bf/fy2014-s...

Having spoken to administration who work for CUNY Baruch (which is a great school) who formerly worked at NYU, that money could make a huge difference. For instance, $40,000 was apparently practically a rounding error at NYU, while at Baruch the only way to free that up would be to fire someone, essentially.

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system rather than to burnish yet another elites-only institution, but training and re-training ordinary workers isn't quite as flashy or sexy a cause.

This is not the only school that Joan and Irwin Jacobs have given to:

And in 1997, the School went through a final name change when QUALCOMM founder and former UCSD engineering professor Irwin Jacobs and his wife Joan Jacobs provided a $15 million endowment for the [UC San Diego School of Engineering], leading to the current name in their honor. The couple later added to the endowment in 2003 with a $110 million gift for scholarships, fellowships, and faculty support.[1]

UC San Diego is certainly not an elites-only institution. The Jacobs family has been very generous to many institutions, and I'm glad to see them helping Cornell NYC get off the ground.

1. http://www.jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/about/about_hx/

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'd be better for this money to go to strengthen technical education (and more importantly, re-educution) in the CUNY system It's very difficult to say that with any level of certainty -- The Null Hypothesis in Education is Hard to Disprove http://www.arnoldkling.com/blog/the-null-hypothesis-in-educa...

There is no correlation between the blog comment you linked to and the statement you're quoting. Your comment boils down to little more than saying "Not true!" If you want to make the point that bolstering public education is a wasted effort, then think of countries like Finland or Norway who have an excellent public educational system. Go on vacation there, and you'll be surprised, for instance, how well the average…

> Your comment boils down to little more than saying "Not true!"

My comment boils down to the same point as the blog post: it's very diffiucult to show benefits of any educational intervention, especially long-term benefits. Corollary: it's very hard to be certain that pumping $100M into the City University will have significant positive results.

> think of countries like Finland or Norway who have an excellent public educational system

Finland is somewhat exceptional but European educational systems are otherwise on par with the American one[1]. Except for the top/prestigious universities where Americans dominate and only Britons keep up[2].

I both live and vacation in Europe. The popularity of English here has more to do with Anglosphere's cultural domination than it has with the school system. If you want anecdotal evidence, English is my second language and I learnt it primarily from trashy American television on cable and then the Internet.

[1] http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2010/12/amazing-truth-abou...

[2] http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-ranki...

Re: Cornell NYC Tech Campus gets $133 Million from co-founder of Qualcomm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no correlation between the blog comment you linked to and the statement you're quoting. Your comment boils down to little more than saying "Not true!" If you want to make the point that bolstering public education is a wasted effort, then think of countries like Finland or Norway who have an excellent public educational system. Go on vacation there, and you'll be surprised, for instance, how well the average…

> Your comment boils down to little more than saying "Not true!" My comment boils down to the same point as the blog post: it's very diffiucult to show benefits of any educational intervention, especially long-term benefits. Corollary: it's very hard to be certain that pumping $100M into the City University will have significant positive results. > think of countries like Finland or Norway who have an excellent publi…

Have you looked at the methodology for Times Higher Education rankings? It has nothing to do with quality of education. It's based on reputation. I went to a top 20 school that was utterly mediocre and was ranked highly only because of its research prowess.

America having a lot of prestigious research institutions has nothing to do with the quality of primary and secondary education in the country. Half of the PhDs and faculty members in those top American schools got their primary and secondary education in foreign countries.

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