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Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I don't know too much about how push notifications work, but don't they have some kind of tracking on them? If not, why not? That would seem like a perfect (obvious) solution for what the article describes. If you could somehow track when people take actions on your push notifications, or discard them. Or heck, even if someone decided to receive them, that should indicate that they are looking at them. Mainly because if someone isn't looking at them, they would probably get very annoyed by push notifications from apps they do not care about and thus, turn those notifications off.

Again, maybe I'm just naive about how it all works, but it seems like it could be a pretty measurable metric already?

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I don't know too much about how push notifications work, but don't they have some kind of tracking on them? If not, why not? That would seem like a perfect (obvious) solution for what the article describes. If you could somehow track when people take actions on your push notifications, or discard them. Or heck, even if someone decided to receive them, that should indicate that they are looking at them. Mainly because…

On iOS, it's pretty much just fire-and-forget. You do get notified when a device isn't reachable anymore, which usually means the app has been uninstalled (so that's sort of feedback). (I think this also might trigger if the phone is offline for a long time, but I'm not sure.)

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I love this about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. I never open my weather app. I hardly ever open the Facebook app. I hardly ever open my stock market app. I just check their Live Tile, and at a glance it tells me exactly what I need to know. It's the biggest thing I miss, by far, when I'm using my Android phone. The information density of Android and iOS doesn't even come close, even with a proper notification center.

I really want Android live tiles. Widgets just aren't comparable.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I'm the exact opposite -- using Facebook for many years and experimenting with many apps has trained me to avoid allowing applications to interact with me out of band.

Back in the day, I was getting harassed about my friend's achievements in Farmville or Mafia Wars on Facebook. More recently, some app my wife installed lets me know every time I'm within a quarter mile of a Target store. The beauty of iOS is that I don't need to deal with a dozen little icons demanding attention like in Windows.

The Windows 8 approach is refreshing, I'm curious to see how it develops.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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> Imagine if app developers could send more data (images, videos) through push notifications, or even receive simple responses (“Yes” / “No”) from users without requiring users to launch the application itself.

You can do this today on Android.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I know this is completely off topic, but is there any reason a website should have a rapidly changing gif animation as their tab icon?

I tend to open a ton of tabs and leave them open (particularly if they're interesting and I want to re-read it or refer to it in a blog post), but the constant oscillation of that tab icon is so distracting that I feel compelled to close that tab as soon as possible since it's going to get in my peripheral vision as I do other work (it's even distracting me as I type this very post!)

I thought the blog post was really interesting but now the only thing I remember about the site is the obnoxious icon, and it compels me not to look at the archives for other potentially intriguing posts :(.

Dear OP, please change that icon. I think it will increase readership and good will of your otherwise interesting blog.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

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I love this about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. I never open my weather app. I hardly ever open the Facebook app. I hardly ever open my stock market app. I just check their Live Tile, and at a glance it tells me exactly what I need to know. It's the biggest thing I miss, by far, when I'm using my Android phone. The information density of Android and iOS doesn't even come close, even with a proper notification center. I…

What do live tiles have that android widgets are missing? Honest question.

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#9

I love this about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. I never open my weather app. I hardly ever open the Facebook app. I hardly ever open my stock market app. I just check their Live Tile, and at a glance it tells me exactly what I need to know. It's the biggest thing I miss, by far, when I'm using my Android phone. The information density of Android and iOS doesn't even come close, even with a proper notification center. I…

> Widgets just aren't comparable.

I'm curios, I haven't used Windows Phone, what's not comparable?

Re: Nobody Knows That I Use These Apps

#10

I love this about Windows Phone's Live Tiles. I never open my weather app. I hardly ever open the Facebook app. I hardly ever open my stock market app. I just check their Live Tile, and at a glance it tells me exactly what I need to know. It's the biggest thing I miss, by far, when I'm using my Android phone. The information density of Android and iOS doesn't even come close, even with a proper notification center. I…

What do live tiles have that android widgets are missing? Honest question.

Tiles are similar to Android widgets, except they're integrated into dashboard in a more "cohesive" manner. On my droid phone, I optionally have to add a special widget (if there's even one for the app, and I sometimes have to download it extra), set the size it takes up on the dashboard page, etc. On the Win phone, the icon you click to start the app is same one that's showing the live data. It's omnipresent. A subtle difference.
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