Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
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Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
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Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#2I'm not sure how successful these phones will be if they don't have Google's permission to provide Google Play, and I can't imagine Google would give them that.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#3I'm not sure how successful these phones will be if they don't have Google's permission to provide Google Play, and I can't imagine Google would give them that.
The Kindle Fire is doing just fine with Amazon Appstore in lieu of Google Play.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#4While I'm sure Samsung would love to replace Android with Tizen, I doubt they will actually be able to do it. While Apple and Google make it appear easy to create an OS that users enjoy using, the reality is that it is incredibly difficult.
Just look at Windows Phone - I'm fairly sure that Microsoft is more able to create a technically superior OS to Samsung, and I think the amount of money Microsoft has poured into Windows Phone advertising shows the amount of marketing talent that is likely being used. Yet Windows Phone is a dismal failure even with Nokia's huge manufacturing bulk behind it. The only sensible conclusion I can come to is that making a desirable mobile OS is far more difficult than it appears, and that there are numerous 'below the water line' effects that make a mobile OS popular.
I very much doubt that Samsung is going to be able to transition the bulk of their Android users to Tizen. I also believe attempting it will be a mistake with both HTC and Sony having very strong challengers to the S4 this year. Any deficiency in the S4 to try and swing customers to Tizen will just mean an erosion of market share as consumers move to HTC/Sony/ZTE etc.
I expect Tizen to get decent traction in China, India and SE Asia in the lower-price tiers, but I can't see it unseating Android in any shape or form.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#5I for one welcome this move. It seems Tizen somewhat follows Maemo's way. Let's hope Samsung is not going to stuff it with loads of bloatware. I wish as well the ecosystem is more like Firefox OS's than iOS's in terms of openness -- I don't know what to think about current Samsung moves regarding Android.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#6I don't know if Samsung would move to Tizen but I can certainly understand the desire to completely control both the hardware and software.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#7I'm not sure how successful these phones will be if they don't have Google's permission to provide Google Play, and I can't imagine Google would give them that.
The Kindle Fire is doing just fine with Amazon Appstore in lieu of Google Play.
That has Amazon's massive content library as a draw, though. Samsung does have an app store, but since their Android phones come with Google Play, I don't know how well populated their own is.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#8I for one welcome this move. It seems Tizen somewhat follows Maemo's way. Let's hope Samsung is not going to stuff it with loads of bloatware. I wish as well the ecosystem is more like Firefox OS's than iOS's in terms of openness -- I don't know what to think about current Samsung moves regarding Android.
talking about bloatware, I can't understand the urge to put a bunch of apps like 'S Health' pre-installed on S4.
Android OEM is stepping on the same path as Windows OEM did.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#9I'm not sure how successful these phones will be if they don't have Google's permission to provide Google Play, and I can't imagine Google would give them that.
I agree. I think Google Play, more so it's mass of Android apps, is a big-ish draw for people. Although really it's only a handful of apps "real" people actually care about (Think Gmail, Twitter, Angry Birds etc...). However from a Google point of view, Samsung has a bit too much power for their liking... I see Google with Motorola, moving even more so into hardware and pushing their "pure" Android Nexus brand more and more. They've piggy backed on Samsung's Android marketing for a while and it's been good for both. But now they're too much of a threat to Android, like the article, potentially moving to a different OS that could further fragment the market.
I think mainly Samsung will wait a see how Windows Phone goes, to see if they change OS. Maybe even launch a Tizen or whatever OS phone to test the water before jumping the Android ship...
It's just like a real life version of Game Of Thrones... Game of Smartphones (maybe not...)
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#10On a more technical aspect: does anyone knows whether the HTML5 apis tizen offer will be fast enough to cover all the needs for "nativ" apps ? I was building a HTML5 phonegap app very recently on a samsung galaxy Tab 2 and couldn't help notice how sluggish the overall feeling was, even for extremely basic UI animations (had to switch to 3D CSS transformations to make sure 3D hardware was used).
If I understood correctly, Tizen will use HTML5 for pretty much anything. So i'm a bit scared of the performances..