Better late than never, right?
Perhaps Jeff Atwood Should Stick to the Code
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Perhaps Jeff Atwood Should Stick to the Code
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Re: Perhaps Jeff Atwood Should Stick to the Code
#2You don't get off to persuasive start when you call everyone who disagrees with you (before even making it clear what you're disagreeing ABOUT) a moron.
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#3You don't get off to persuasive start when you call everyone who disagrees with you (before even making it clear what you're disagreeing ABOUT) a moron.
Did we even read the same article? Where are you getting that from?
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#4You don't get off to persuasive start when you call everyone who disagrees with you (before even making it clear what you're disagreeing ABOUT) a moron.
Did we even read the same article? Where are you getting that from?
"Like everyone else with an internet connection and a brain"
Emphasis mine.
Re: Perhaps Jeff Atwood Should Stick to the Code
#5You don't get off to persuasive start when you call everyone who disagrees with you (before even making it clear what you're disagreeing ABOUT) a moron.
You are misreading the first line of the article. The article's author is lumping himself AND Jeff Atwood (not to mention nearly the entire population of Hacker News) into the same bucket here: ALL of them saddened by the passing of Aaron Swartz.
He then disagrees with Jeff Atwood about a further point: whether Aaron should have "accepted the penalty" for his activism.
Personally, when I first read Jeff Atwood's original essay I felt that I understood what he was getting at ("I'm disappointed that Aaron 'quit' on us, and I hope no one else does."), but I felt (as does this author) that his suggestion that civil disobedience requires one to accept the penalties for breaking the law. I am neither sure that Aaron Swartz intended to engage in civil disobedience, nor am I sure that meekly accepting the state-imposed punishment is a necessary component of civil disobedience.
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#8I don't think this kind of dialog really helps. Jeff's post was, I thought, sincere and understandable. It's not really the same way I saw things, but I can see what he meant. It clearly wasn't intended to be disrespectful, and reading that in and then flaming about it publicly isn't helping anyone.
If Jeff was angry at Aaron for "taking the easy way out" (again: not my personal reaction, but one I think I can understand), he has the right to express that without being told he should "stick to the code". Dealing with "inconvenient" emotions is part of grief, and that process deserves respect too.
Basically: lighten up. This is really not an appropriate subject to pick a fight over.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Like everyone else with an internet connection and a brain " Emphasis mine.
mcherm is right about what I meant: a hopefully-not-controversial statement. Sorry for being unclear.
It just seems needlessly antagonistic. More flies with honey than vinegar and all that.