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How Doers Do

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Re: How Doers Do

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> go out there and do something worthwhile and stop regaling your heroes for their ability to shut up and ship.

Reminds me of a Buddhist saying that if you meet the Buddha on the road, you should kill him. Kill being used in the sense of remain detached, not physically kill.

Re: How Doers Do

#3
I don't know Tom Preston-Werner etc. so this comment is based upon the OP's post and the twitter feed and what I have just read.

Judging by the timing of the tweets it seems that TPW got into a manic episode and fixed a problem. While we have all done things like this from time to time I don't see it as an example of "how doers do".

"Doers" should be firing on all cylinders all the time taking on things that can't be fixed in a binge. And if they can be fixed in a hour or two it shouldn't take a manic episode to get the energy to fix them.

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It is amazing how today's technology favours the doers who inspires us with their actions. Almost anyone in the world can see and learn from their actions, thanks to technology.

Decades ago leadership meant using powerful and inspiring words to move people into action. This led us to believe that people who could "communicate" well were natural leaders. Personally, I prefer "doers" to "talkers" as an inspirational model.

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I like how he summarizes the post he links to as “go out there and do something worthwhile and stop regaling your heroes for their ability to shut up and ship”, and then totally fails to take the point to heart, by writing a gushing piece about TPW and his “ability to shut up and ship”. Obnoxious.

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It's good to have this kind of drive, but writing replacements for existing tools/libraries because they're flawed, while fun, can be an incredible distraction from the end goal of shipping your product. I know this from experience. It's a balancing act: sometimes it's worth it, but often you'll spend more time writing the replacement than you'd spend using the bad tool.

Tom Preston-Werner is also incredibly lucky that he can write a spec and overnight a half-dozen implementations crop up. I wish that worked for me!

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No really ... how do doers do? I got married recently and have a full time job on weekdays. It has been an immense challenge to find time to work on personal projects now that I am no longer single. I've known some weight lifters who wake up early or go to bed very late in order to get in their workouts (I've had some success with this but have gotten overwhelmed after a few days). Any HNers have tips on how to live the hacker life while maintaining marital bliss?

Re: How Doers Do

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post #6

It's good to have this kind of drive, but writing replacements for existing tools/libraries because they're flawed, while fun, can be an incredible distraction from the end goal of shipping your product. I know this from experience. It's a balancing act: sometimes it's worth it, but often you'll spend more time writing the replacement than you'd spend using the bad tool. Tom Preston-Werner is also incredibly lucky th…

"but writing replacements for existing tools/libraries because they're flawed, while fun, can be an incredible distraction"

I think that's an excellent point and more or less goes along with my comment on this. I think what TPW was doing was actually trying to get out of the rut of completing the real work by trying to have some success and pleasure which would spur him on to finishing what he needed to do (as evidenced by the tweets) (reminds me a little of not getting into real work but spending time "organizing" first under you get the energy up to tackle the real task). Sometimes simply writing shell scripts gets me in the mood to do the "real work" that I have to do (programming or non programming).

Once again, nothing wrong with this approach I just don't think it's an example as stated of a "doer" which is not the same as saying that the behavior doesn't have any value.

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No really ... how do doers do? I got married recently and have a full time job on weekdays. It has been an immense challenge to find time to work on personal projects now that I am no longer single. I've known some weight lifters who wake up early or go to bed very late in order to get in their workouts (I've had some success with this but have gotten overwhelmed after a few days). Any HNers have tips on how to live…

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Re: How Doers Do

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post #3

I don't know Tom Preston-Werner etc. so this comment is based upon the OP's post and the twitter feed and what I have just read. Judging by the timing of the tweets it seems that TPW got into a manic episode and fixed a problem. While we have all done things like this from time to time I don't see it as an example of "how doers do". "Doers" should be firing on all cylinders all the time taking on things that can't be…

While I agree with your point, I do feel the need to point out that "finally doing some house cleaning" is not a manic episode. A manic episode is something that last a week and usually includes refactorings of more grandeur proportions
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