Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by fernandezpablo » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 12:13 AM UTC

Discourse ditches CoffeeScript
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Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by fourstar » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:23 AM UTC

Is it just me or is anyone else finding it weird viewing a thread on Discourse from HN? It's basically the same thing IMO (although obviously this is a Discourse site announcement). I just hope this doesn't become a "thing" as it's just essentially same as linking to a forum post.

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by kmf » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:29 AM UTC

I think the advantage of this project being open source becomes really clear in situations like this: I'd imagine js2coffee[1] will cover most of their bases, but in the situation that it doesn't, they have a (pretty active) Github community to fall back on for the finicky bits of conversion.

[1]: http://js2coffee.org/

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by eurleif » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:41 AM UTC

fourstar wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is anyone else finding it weird viewing a thread on Discourse from HN? It's basically the same thing IMO (although obviously this is a Discourse site announcement). I just hope this doesn't become a "thing" as it's just essentially same as linking to a forum post.

HN sometimes links to reddit, too. Is there something wrong with linking to a forum post if it's a compelling forum post?

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by ansman » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:42 AM UTC

If you understand programming (there is a difference between knowing how to program and understanding, a lot of people lack the latter) there is absolutely no difficulty learning CS if you know JS.

I've been coding CS for over a year now and I like it, I've never found it hard to debug and it's just easier to read.

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by ricardobeat » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:42 AM UTC

Did they? I can't get to the end of the thread 'cause their infinite scroll thing is not working on mobile safari. Looks like they should focus on coding instead.

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by eurleif » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 1:48 AM UTC

ansman wrote: post #5

If you understand programming (there is a difference between knowing how to program and understanding, a lot of people lack the latter) there is absolutely no difficulty learning CS if you know JS. I've been coding CS for over a year now and I like it, I've never found it hard to debug and it's just easier to read.

CoffeeScript's scoping is broken. http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/22/implicit-scoping-in-coffe...

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by snprbob86 » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 2:05 AM UTC

eurleif wrote: post #7

ansman wrote: post #5

If you understand programming (there is a difference between knowing how to program and understanding, a lot of people lack the latter) there is absolutely no difficulty learning CS if you know JS. I've been coding CS for over a year now and I like it, I've never found it hard to debug and it's just easier to read.

CoffeeScript's scoping is broken. http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/22/implicit-scoping-in-coffe...

I greatly prefer Scheme-like lexical scoping. However, JavaScript does not implement lexical scoping properly. Given the particularities of JavaScript's inadequacies, I think that the CoffeeScript design is very reasonable. It's certainly not "broken".

Lots more discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3379962

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by notb » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 2:06 AM UTC

eurleif wrote: post #7

ansman wrote: post #5

If you understand programming (there is a difference between knowing how to program and understanding, a lot of people lack the latter) there is absolutely no difficulty learning CS if you know JS. I've been coding CS for over a year now and I like it, I've never found it hard to debug and it's just easier to read.

CoffeeScript's scoping is broken. http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/22/implicit-scoping-in-coffe...

That article points out a design decision that the author disagrees with. It does not prove that CoffeeScript's scoping is broken.

Re: Discourse ditches CoffeeScript

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Post by ChuckMcM » Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 2:09 AM UTC

fourstar wrote: post #2

Is it just me or is anyone else finding it weird viewing a thread on Discourse from HN? It's basically the same thing IMO (although obviously this is a Discourse site announcement). I just hope this doesn't become a "thing" as it's just essentially same as linking to a forum post.

I just thought it was a way for the Discourse guys to get people here to look at a 'real' thread in Discourse to get a feel for the system. If it is compelling enough to get someone to register and comment its a double benefit.

That said, the annoying ones for me are links to Google+ things, the URL says "google.com" but the content is various.