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TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by pclark »

i wish someone would make a really nice cocoa IDE for ruby (or make xcode work with rails) make it work nicely with Git, Rails, Terminal and auto complete: Sold.

Auto-complete is a lovely way to learn a new language.

Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by Hates_ »

pclark wrote: post #2

i wish someone would make a really nice cocoa IDE for ruby (or make xcode work with rails) make it work nicely with Git, Rails, Terminal and auto complete: Sold. Auto-complete is a lovely way to learn a new language.

I'm totally of the opposite mindset. I think auto-complete is a terrible way to introduce someone to a new language.

Yes, you may see results quicker, but I've found all that happens is you become reliant upon auto-complete to do the thinking for you. All too often I have seen people use auto-complete as a tool to help them just mindlessly code away rather then taking the time to actually figure out what it is they are trying to achieve. Forcing yourself to actually look at the API and type out a function name cements a concept so much more then autocomplete.

Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by evdawg »

I think it's funny that we do all these things to increase our productivity, and then some people use a text editor that hangs on loading files :P.

I would honest-to-god rather be using Notepad then Aptana. Being slow loading text files is just unacceptable.

Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by axod »

I'm still trying to get used to TextMate (Started using it 2 weeks ago).

It's a good enough editor, but I wish it'd just stop trying to do things for me (Inserting closing brackets/quotes, auto-indenting, etc etc). It's taken a long time to disable all these irritations and I'm not sure I have them all yet.

Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by old-gregg »

Hates_ wrote: post #3
pclark wrote: post #2

i wish someone would make a really nice cocoa IDE for ruby (or make xcode work with rails) make it work nicely with Git, Rails, Terminal and auto complete: Sold. Auto-complete is a lovely way to learn a new language.

I'm totally of the opposite mindset. I think auto-complete is a terrible way to introduce someone to a new language. Yes, you may see results quicker, but I've found all that happens is you become reliant upon auto-complete to do the thinking for you. All too often I have seen people use auto-complete as a tool to help them just mindlessly code away rather then taking the time to actually figure out what it is they a…

I'm totally of the opposite mindset. I think auto-complete is a terrible way to introduce someone to a new language.

Agreed. Back in college I remember reading a book about effects of various computer aids on our cognitive development [the users in question were mostly teenagers/students]. Programmers were mentioned too. Relying on compilers to catch syntax errors or auto-completing IDEs to suggest method names we're basically refusing to pay attention/memorize things, which ultimately leads to a much poorer skill quality. Ever since then I've been training myself to expect my code to compile at 1st try, i.e. I would do a quick reviews before hitting the "build" hotkey.

From my experience: I think most Microsoft developers will feel completely lost if left with a command line compiler and notepad.exe Even if you take coding out of the equation, many don't have a good understanding of what makes an executable, i.e. they wont' be able to build a project without an IDE.

Re: TextMate vs AptanaStudio

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Post by carlosrr »

Hates_ wrote: post #3
pclark wrote: post #2

i wish someone would make a really nice cocoa IDE for ruby (or make xcode work with rails) make it work nicely with Git, Rails, Terminal and auto complete: Sold. Auto-complete is a lovely way to learn a new language.

I'm totally of the opposite mindset. I think auto-complete is a terrible way to introduce someone to a new language. Yes, you may see results quicker, but I've found all that happens is you become reliant upon auto-complete to do the thinking for you. All too often I have seen people use auto-complete as a tool to help them just mindlessly code away rather then taking the time to actually figure out what it is they a…

I agree, seeing all of the documentation on the same page helps you learn other functions that you might otherwise not look at. Also, the higher level the language the less the programmer has to rely on autocompletion.
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