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I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#1
I spent 276 days trying to figure out what to do with my life, I still don't have an answer.

I have no experience in programming, nor do I have delusions about becoming an elite programmer. I just would like to learn enough to have a better filter to notice/process ideas as mentioned here: http://www.paulgraham.com/startupideas.html

I have decided to commit to learn programming at a base level, enough to possibly make prototypes/potential to find co-founder.

I left a previous job that paid well for many years because 1.I wasn't talented and 2.I did not see my life as being fulfilled down that path.

A couple points for your consideration

1. I have over 1mm liquid, and I have no debt, don't own a house or car. This may be tacky to mention, but since I am anonymous, I just wanted to put it out there out of desperation in hopes someone can give me some solution (wishful thinking).

2. No one depends on me, I have as many hours as there are in a day to work on this.

I started doing some html work on code academy, it seemed a bit slow and thorough for what I'm trying to do. I looked at Zed Shaw's courses, and they seem like a good idea, but I'm not sure if it's overkill (or underkill?) for what my goals are.

If any of this makes sense, you would SIGNIFICANTLY help me by giving me guidance to help achieve my goal. I don't want to waste time learning things that I really won't need to know (near term).

I have searched much, but not knowing what I need to know, it is hard to discern what is and isn't necessary. (In terms of the base goal).

Maybe I am not cut out to be a founder. But I do know that reading pg's essays make my mind run wild, and I find instant inspiration and excitement in his writings. I have spent 276 days trying to figure out something else, and nothing is jumping out at me. So it's about time to make some sort of a commitment. For better or for worse.

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#2
I wish I had your problem ;-)Where r u based? You don't need to learn how to code, there are excellent devs out there, find your mission/passion and spend some of your cash on it. One area could be mobile tech for develop. countries - exciting! Best of luck

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#3
In my experience it is not unusual that an intelligent, ambitious, and creative person finds themselves at a crossroad in their late twenties. Perhaps it began in adolescence, even childhood, where they knew that they had an above-average intelligence and a mind open to possibilities -- but, at the same time, a grave sense of self doubt existed, which only grew year by year as ambitious projects floundered and others (who to appearances were less intelligent or at least less imaginative) thrived. This can reach a crisis point in the late twenties, when the options for avoidance begin to dry up -- and one is faced with the increasing reality of finding work, starting a career, etc.

This can be a frightening moment -- but it is also a liberating moment, viewed correctly. At this point the self's ego-image -- the set of core beliefs about who you are, what you are destined for, how 'intelligence' and 'success' are defined -- come into conflict with the reality principle. This is naturally a very painful moment (drawn across months and even years). It is also an opportunity to redefine these core beliefs -- to reexamine them -- to ask yourself what are your fundamental assumptions about intelligence, creativity, success.

In my own experience, and watching similar-minded friends, this crisis point is a fundamental conflict between what we THINK intelligence, creativity, and genius is -- and what we actually see in ourselves. On the one hand we "know" that we are smart, imaginative -- on the other, the reality principle demands proof and evidence. But here is the paradox: this very belief in intelligence creates its own contradictions. For example, if you believe that smart people are smart because they do clever things easily -- then your brain can start to believe that if you find something hard to do, it is proof of your stupidity. The brain then finds ways to avoid this painful conflict between ego-image and reality -- by dreaming up great ambitions and projects, but then shying away from realising them. Or, you can develop an aversion to "lesser work" -- which reinforces a belief that you are innately special and "above that".

The problem is in the core assumptions one makes about worth -- examining these assumptions deeply, being open to see the paradoxes in them, the hypocrisies even, can reveal avenues out of the situation. You can find practical things to do -- this in turn can build real confidence, not ego-confidence. Work seems then less like 'drudgery' and more like the slow and steady strengthening of your powers.

Just some thoughts...

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#4
Hey how's it going?

Sounds like you're in a great spot to pursue a goal, as soon as you've settled on what you'd like to do.

How did the programming go over the past 276 days? (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3964837) How did your prototype come out?

I somewhat agree with cjbenedikt about investing. The issue though is that without actually experiencing startup or being in the trenches with technology it is harder to filter/process ideas that people talk to you about.

You're cut out to be a founder if you are consistently applying effort to improving yourself as an entrepreneur/in business. Persistence is key, because that way you can eventually navigate all the obstacles to building a successful company, something I've managed only to a minor degree.

I won't presume to give you any advice besides that. What I can help you out with though is getting a solid start to learning how to program. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions, especially related to programming (front-end, back-end, software, architecture, mobile, games... anything) at kevin.stubbs at therubyhouse dot com.

P.S.

With apparently all the time in the world, don't worry about learning too much programming. Just work your ass off at it and you'll be a fair enough programmer for your needs soon enough. (I prefer overkill courses too.)

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

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>"it seemed a bit slow and thorough for what I'm trying to do"

Okay, so as somebody who quit their job to learn to code (I just didn't realise that was what I was doing at the time), I'll say: if you are going to code you have to be thorough. Codeacademy is a good start. I began by doing pretty much everything on that site in a couple of 8hrs/day 7-day weeks. From there, Treehouse, Zed, books, blogs, StackOverflow... there are a hundred ways.

Bottom line: if you want to be a technical founder you've got to commit to learning the hard way, be passionate and determined. Non-technical, you should read and type along to something like Michael Hartl's Rails Tutorial book so at least you've got your hands dirty with code and can understand how it works when working with a co-founder. For a brief intro to simple web apps, you might try the Essential PHP with MySQL course on Lynda.com as you can see the inner workings of CRUD etc.

I've been at it six months and I can hang out with devs and talk shop, no problems. You could probably get to where I've done quicker too. Good luck!

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

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Over the past 14 months I have put myself through the same self-learning process with a similar goal. Be able to build full working prototypes of the web app ideas in my head. I am fully aware that if one of these start to get some customer traction I will need to have a more experienced dev help me deal with a whole variety of issues from scalability to security and a designer to help with UI/UX and visual appeal.

Although I had read a couple of books and tried some tutorials none of it really felt like it stuck until I just started building a site that I wanted. Even though it isn't the most systematic education, each piece that you learn is focused on solving a current problem.

As I look back over the year, I have learned a reasonable amount of HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP and MySQL and just enough of deploying to a LAMP stack at my hosting company so that I can get sites up and running.

It sounds really daunting, and there were some really hard days this last year, but if you stay focused on solving one or two chunks of the overall problem at a time you can work your way through it.

I now can now do what I set out to do, which is build full working prototype sites. I have several demos deployed and am starting pilot implementations with customers on two of the sites.

I don't know your technical background or formal training. My own background was pretty technical but not web development. Even if your background is not technical, there are plenty of examples of people with Liberal Arts backgrounds and teens teaching themselves do do web development.

Another possibility for you, is to try to go to one of the dev bootcamps, you commit 12 weeks of undivided intense concentration under the tutoring of experienced developers. This would quickly get you a foundation.

Best of luck

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#7

In my experience it is not unusual that an intelligent, ambitious, and creative person finds themselves at a crossroad in their late twenties. Perhaps it began in adolescence, even childhood, where they knew that they had an above-average intelligence and a mind open to possibilities -- but, at the same time, a grave sense of self doubt existed, which only grew year by year as ambitious projects floundered and others…

"For example, if you believe that smart people are smart because they do clever things easily -- then your brain can start to believe that if you find something hard to do, it is proof of your stupidity. The brain then finds ways to avoid this painful conflict between ego-image and reality -- by dreaming up great ambitions and projects, but then shying away from realising them. Or, you can develop an aversion to "lesser work" -- which reinforces a belief that you are innately special and "above that"

This is me. It seems very complicated to overcome such a thing, as some of the assumptions seem rational. What do you deem as 'practical things to do'? (Or do you have any examples of this?)

Also thanks for this. I don't know what to say, but this hits home rather hard.

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

#8
I was in your position financially and career-wise - just hated what I was doing. Gave a little thought to coding but decided I had plenty of money to just hire people to complete the project. Went to every dev firm in the US who I thought had the skills. Most quoted around $25k - which would be great but I dint believe they could do it.

Instead went to a firm in SV that wanted $54k. They had worked on a large prior project so I thought they could get it done. They couldn't even get the first milestone complete after giving then two times the allotted time. Fired them.

Finally found my own people and launched 5 months ago and going great. I would suggest finding some good people on HN.

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

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I was in your position financially and career-wise - just hated what I was doing. Gave a little thought to coding but decided I had plenty of money to just hire people to complete the project. Went to every dev firm in the US who I thought had the skills. Most quoted around $25k - which would be great but I dint believe they could do it. Instead went to a firm in SV that wanted $54k. They had worked on a large prior…

I'm very happy to hear that you're doing it. For a very long period, I started to give up hope (and I had never even attempted anything). I would very much like to find some people here. Can you say what you are working on building?

Re: I'm a 30 year old with no experience, I want to build a startup

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I was in your position financially and career-wise - just hated what I was doing. Gave a little thought to coding but decided I had plenty of money to just hire people to complete the project. Went to every dev firm in the US who I thought had the skills. Most quoted around $25k - which would be great but I dint believe they could do it. Instead went to a firm in SV that wanted $54k. They had worked on a large prior…

that's exactly what I meant by "there are excellent devs out there, find your mission/passion and spend some of your cash on it"
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