VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
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VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
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Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#2Having done a lot of video encoding myself, I've found that H.264 offers the best quality, especially at lower bit rates.
I really do hope that VP9 can offer the quality of H.265. VP8 just wasn't good enough to compete against H.264.
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#3Considering the sheer number of devices with h.264, it's like saying betamax is superior while everyone only has vhs.
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#4DarkShikari (x264 dev) has blogged about VP8 a few times: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/category/vp8
"The first in-depth technical analysis of VP8" http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/377
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#5Considering the sheer number of devices with h.264, it's like saying betamax is superior while everyone only has vhs.
I don't quite understand, Betamax had superior quality, but in this case this article shows that h264 has more detail at the same bit rate combined with much faster encoding.
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#6Considering the sheer number of devices with h.264, it's like saying betamax is superior while everyone only has vhs.
I don't quite understand, Betamax had superior quality, but in this case this article shows that h264 has more detail at the same bit rate combined with much faster encoding.
Does your standalone device have vp8? All bluray devices can play h264 streams but almost never vp8.
Of course as everything switches to android this will change completely by the end of the decade, but for streaming in 2013, h264 is the better investment.
Once they move to h265 vs vp9 the point is moot but that won't be common for at least five years. The encoding requirements for those streams will also be significant.
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#7Let's see how Daala and VP9 work out. Something should break the domination of closed formats, and MPEG-LA obviously plan to extend their grip on the market with H.265, since patents on H.264 are going to expire. Introducing an updated format will start this whole patent lock from the beginning.
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#8DarkShikari (x264 dev) has blogged about VP8 a few times: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/category/vp8 "The first in-depth technical analysis of VP8" http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/377
That he has. My test clip choice was inspired by him[1], and I also link to another blog post of his[2] in the conclusion. That VP8 blog post is almost three years old now, though, and the comment I'm replying to in my article claimed that VP8 is better than H.264 "at this point". This is why I did my test with the latest and greatest encoders available for both formats today.
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#9Considering the sheer number of devices with h.264, it's like saying betamax is superior while everyone only has vhs.
One of the interesting things about VP8 is that its very similar to h.264. Saying that one device has hardware support for h.264 really means that it has support for some of the operations that h.264 uses; likely that same ones that VP8 uses. In fact, I am willing to bet that is why Android devices 2.3.3 and up require VP8 support; it was easy to add it in.
The ffmpeg guys wrote a VP8 decoder with 1400 lines of C because of how much they were able to reuse. From: http://blogs.gnome.org/rbultje/2010/06/27/googles-vp8-video-...
Re: VP8 vs H.264 – Which One is Better?
#10Having done a lot of video encoding myself, I've found that H.264 offers the best quality, especially at lower bit rates. I really do hope that VP9 can offer the quality of H.265. VP8 just wasn't good enough to compete against H.264.
No, the point is it is good enough, even if in some cases it can't be as good because it has to work around software patents. Theora indeed can't compete in comparison, but VP8 surely can.