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Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Re: Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Post by maxharris »

I am sick of hearing about Anonymous and its vigilantism. We have courts and a justice system for a reason: to place retaliatory force under objective controls (laws) so that the rights of individuals are not violated. Their tactics are both dangerous to freedom and to justice.

In addition, while a few of the things they're against are actually bad things, not all of the causes they fight are just. And their illegal methods serve mainly to hurt the good fights (such as the fight against Scientology) rather than help.

Re: Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Post by mayneack »

"Reform or we'll release this incriminating stuff."

Clearly, the better way to get them to reform is to release the incriminating material and have a scandal about it. If it's really bad enough to be worth this headline, it'll do a lot more good when it's not a threat. Of course, that means it's probably irrelevant and/or useless.

Re: Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Post by Havoc »

maxharris wrote: post #4

I am sick of hearing about Anonymous and its vigilantism. We have courts and a justice system for a reason: to place retaliatory force under objective controls (laws) so that the rights of individuals are not violated. Their tactics are both dangerous to freedom and to justice. In addition, while a few of the things they're against are actually bad things, not all of the causes they fight are just. And their illegal…

>I am sick of hearing about Anonymous and its vigilantism. We have courts and a justice system for a reason

So much irony. You didn't watch the video did you?

Re: Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Post by maxharris »

Havoc wrote: post #6
maxharris wrote: post #4

I am sick of hearing about Anonymous and its vigilantism. We have courts and a justice system for a reason: to place retaliatory force under objective controls (laws) so that the rights of individuals are not violated. Their tactics are both dangerous to freedom and to justice. In addition, while a few of the things they're against are actually bad things, not all of the causes they fight are just. And their illegal…

>I am sick of hearing about Anonymous and its vigilantism. We have courts and a justice system for a reason So much irony. You didn't watch the video did you?

I have a right to disagree. I have a right to put what I want on a web server, at my own expense, without fear of DoS attacks or website defacement.

If anarchy rules, any person group can do those things without fear of reprisal. That's basically what Anonymous does, and that's why they have to be stopped.

Re: Anonymous threatens Justice Department over hacktivist death

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Post by smsm42 »

I hope these guys realize they are not helping. Or maybe they just don't care. The result of this would only be that John Q. Public - who knows next to nothing about how the technology works and what's the difference between Swartz, Anonymous and various random trolls - would be sure there are dangerous hackers all around who can break into anything and destroy his life at a touch of a button, and he would run to Ortiz and company and hand them any powers that are possible to give them without literally bending over and spreading - and will beg them to protect the public from evil hackers. If you want to combat irrational fear and overreaction of people to, say, cars, driving a car through their local 7-11 is probably not the best idea you can come up with.
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