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Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

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Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

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I'm interested to see how the `oxide-cloud-controller-manager` is being built for "modern" Kubernetes and if it leads to any signify difference compared to CCMs that originated in-tree. Given the way Oxide engineer their solutions this could be really interesting.

FYI I've got `karpenter-provider-oxide` on my bingo card...

Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

#5

I would absolutely kill for them to open source their documentation system.

Are you referring to our RFD system?[0][1] Because if so, good news![2]

[0] https://rfd.shared.oxide.computer/rfd/0001

[1] https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/rfds-the-ba...

[2] https://github.com/oxidecomputer/rfd-site

Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

#6

I would absolutely kill for them to open source their documentation system.

Are you referring to our RFD system?[0][1] Because if so, good news![2] [0] https://rfd.shared.oxide.computer/rfd/0001 [1] https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/rfds-the-ba... [2] https://github.com/oxidecomputer/rfd-site

OMG, you just made my day!

Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

#7

I'm interested to see how the `oxide-cloud-controller-manager` is being built for "modern" Kubernetes and if it leads to any signify difference compared to CCMs that originated in-tree. Given the way Oxide engineer their solutions this could be really interesting. FYI I've got `karpenter-provider-oxide` on my bingo card...

Yes this would be great addition! Also it would be awesome to see proper load balancer, ingress controller with `gateway api` and a `api gateway` (two separate things).

I’m not an oxide customer, just a fan. I have lots of ideas around how something like this should look, being disappointed with the complexity and also shortcomings of products on the market for this stuff, both in the cloud and on prem.

Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

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Kubernetes is where Oxide, from my armchair, doesn't yet quite match the public cloud.

On AWS EKS Fargate, each pod runs in its own dedicated VM. With Oxide each k8s node is a VM, so you still need something like Talos.

On networking it looks like it is getting closer. Where you can have external subnet give pod routed IPs without overlay. But the gap, as marked by the article, is also the load balancing.

It would be nice if Kubernetes were a native feature out-of-the-box. Also integrated within the existing user/access control.

Re: Kubernetes on Oxide: How customer needs shaped our integrations

#10

I'm interested to see how the `oxide-cloud-controller-manager` is being built for "modern" Kubernetes and if it leads to any signify difference compared to CCMs that originated in-tree. Given the way Oxide engineer their solutions this could be really interesting. FYI I've got `karpenter-provider-oxide` on my bingo card...

There are few paths we can take here. The CCM's primary responsibility is to implement the cloudprovider.Interface[0] which has node, route, and service controllers. However, the CCM can run arbitrary named controllers as well, giving us a fun extension point for the future. The in-tree CCMs are being phased out in favor of out-of-tree CCMs. The AWS Cloud Provider[1] is a good example of what that's starting to look like.

My colleague demo'd Karpeneter internally. We haven't committed releasing it yet but we're discussing it.

[0] https://github.com/kubernetes/cloud-provider/blob/master/clo...

[1] https://github.com/kubernetes/cloud-provider-aws

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