On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
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Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#2Noose keeps tightening, the war on General Purpose Computing, the war against users owning devices intensifies. How utterly fallen.
We'll see what happens with the proposed ADB changes. Lots of no one asking for this, lots of people describing how badly their phone use will be greviously impacted, and seemingly very little discussion/engagement/justification. Maybe they'll fire the bullet anyways. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/526109803
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#3Noose keeps tightening, the war on General Purpose Computing, the war against users owning devices intensifies. How utterly fallen. We'll see what happens with the proposed ADB changes. Lots of no one asking for this, lots of people describing how badly their phone use will be greviously impacted, and seemingly very little discussion/engagement/justification. Maybe they'll fire the bullet anyways. https://issuetracke…
You will own nothing and you'll be happy.
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#4Noose keeps tightening, the war on General Purpose Computing, the war against users owning devices intensifies. How utterly fallen. We'll see what happens with the proposed ADB changes. Lots of no one asking for this, lots of people describing how badly their phone use will be greviously impacted, and seemingly very little discussion/engagement/justification. Maybe they'll fire the bullet anyways. https://issuetracke…
You will own nothing and you'll be happy.
You, too, will love Big Brother
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#5I don't understand why ensuring general-purpose computing is not a priority of the European Union.
All that talk about sovereignty, and we are giving full control of our digital lives to 2 American companies.
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#6I don't understand why ensuring general-purpose computing is not a priority of the European Union. All that talk about sovereignty, and we are giving full control of our digital lives to 2 American companies.
It's a regulated market economy. Someone has to actually make the product. They can't force someone to make a product.
There's MNT in the EU.
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#7I think it might be a good idea to pause updates on our Android devices, as horrible as it is for security just to prevent this from happening. My OEM has a lot of bloat (Facebook and other junk apps you can't uninstall, useless system services, etc) that mostly do nothing except provide some functionality I don't use along with analytics every minute so they are uninstalled.
"Disabling" an app does not do that much, the OS can re enable it with an update or prevent you from disabling it.
I doubt there is true full privacy on a phone anymore with a stock ROM.
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#8GrapheneOS has minimal, private [1] system apps so you don't have to debloat anything yourself. Manual debloating is not a good solution at the user level.
Some system apps are being overhauled, so that's something to look forward to. Gallery will be [2] based on ReFra [3].
[1] Except phone and messaging but that's the cell network.
GrapheneOS recommends Signal/Molly or SimpleX instead.
[2] https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/2083724696722301266#m
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#9I don't understand why ensuring general-purpose computing is not a priority of the European Union. All that talk about sovereignty, and we are giving full control of our digital lives to 2 American companies.
It's a regulated market economy. Someone has to actually make the product. They can't force someone to make a product. There's MNT in the EU.
While the EU and its member countries can't (or at least morally shouldn't) force people to make the product, if it was a priority they could incentivise it with funding, tax breaks, etc.
Re: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
#10Noose keeps tightening, the war on General Purpose Computing, the war against users owning devices intensifies. How utterly fallen. We'll see what happens with the proposed ADB changes. Lots of no one asking for this, lots of people describing how badly their phone use will be greviously impacted, and seemingly very little discussion/engagement/justification. Maybe they'll fire the bullet anyways. https://issuetracke…
I said the same thing about waiting for 24hrs before being able to use adb to install apps. About 24hrs being not a big blocker and that it was good for security. It's all about boiling the frog slowly, 24hrs is the start and then they'll add more restrictions once users accept that. Ultimately goog would like to have the system as much locked down as apple or even more.