Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
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Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#2Programming generates programmers, and programs are a side-effect.
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#3One factor is that we struggled for a long time under proprietary tooling, and don't want to go back there.
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#4A hobby is something you enjoy the process of doing, not just the end result. Everybody likes a clean home, but cleaning is rarely a hobby. LLMs expedite achieving the end result. Take from that what you will.
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#6Yes, hobbyists are less interested than businesses in automating their own hobby.
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#7All of this is exactly why I started Slow Code. I like programming. Lots of people like programming. I don't want to stop doing that. So we meet up once a month to practice that.
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#8Well of course, if you enjoy writing software as a hobby then you value the experience of doing it, and you value the skill involved. You probably want a community of like minded individuals who all write code by hand, and where LLM use would be considered cheating.
That seems as natural as being against doping in sports or marking cards in poker.
None of this is anything against LLMs or AI assisted coding in general, even though the people involved probably have strong feelings about it given their preferences. It’s just the preferences of particular people and communities. Seems reasonable to me.
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#9knitting communities also don't love factory machines too? I'm not sure how this could surprise anyone
Re: Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage
#10I get all the fuzz about only being able to learn if you do the work. But frankly, as a hobby programmer with a rather unusual workflow/toolset and a love for the command-line, it has never been so satifying to scratch a few itches I've always had but apparently never was motivated enough to really follow through. In the past 6 months, I've "written" at least 3 tools which I kind of always wanted, and which I now use on a regular basis. AND, I finally have a peer I can talk to about the code I'm trying to write. Something I basically never had, because all my FLOSS projects were small-very-nieche-one-man-shows. Its nice to be able to pretend to have a coding friend :-)