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New open sourced eval tool for building agents

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Re: New open sourced eval tool for building agents

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how do you define quality broke? for me it broke when nothing broke. score from llm moved, >= 4 filter after it meant something else. gating on exit code would have passed the whole time.

Yeah thats the real failure mode and it took me a while to name it too. A threshold isnt a test, it is a coordinate system that assumes a fixed origin. When the judge moves the filter keeps passing but it is selecting a different population and nothing throws because no invariant anywhere names that population. So i define it as: quality broke when an observable moved without a change that authorizes it. Thanks for trying it out i am really happy for feed back :D

Re: New open sourced eval tool for building agents

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post #3
post #2

how do you define quality broke? for me it broke when nothing broke. score from llm moved, >= 4 filter after it meant something else. gating on exit code would have passed the whole time.

Yeah thats the real failure mode and it took me a while to name it too. A threshold isnt a test, it is a coordinate system that assumes a fixed origin. When the judge moves the filter keeps passing but it is selecting a different population and nothing throws because no invariant anywhere names that population. So i define it as: quality broke when an observable moved without a change that authorizes it. Thanks for t…

labels here too, about 100 articles with the band they should get. what i still cannot see is a move with no change to blame.

Re: New open sourced eval tool for building agents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah thats the real failure mode and it took me a while to name it too. A threshold isnt a test, it is a coordinate system that assumes a fixed origin. When the judge moves the filter keeps passing but it is selecting a different population and nothing throws because no invariant anywhere names that population. So i define it as: quality broke when an observable moved without a change that authorizes it. Thanks for t…

labels here too, about 100 articles with the band they should get. what i still cannot see is a move with no change to blame.

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