Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
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Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
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#2> Digital sovereignty is real in Europe.
Sent from my iPhone. /s
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#3The UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union. Wish people would distinguish between the two. (I was a Remainer by the way!!!)
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#4Digital sovereignity is when we're forcing everyone to use Android or iOS in order to access online services? https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-doc-technic...>
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#5The UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union. Wish people would distinguish between the two. (I was a Remainer by the way!!!)
> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union
Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#6Same with Canadian “digital sovereignty”, every single critical infrastructure I have seen are fully running and relying on US based companies, not partially, no, the core infrastructure and business relies on them, and no way to change that in at least 20y if I am being optimistic.
So next time you hear this sentence, you should know that you are being manipulated to tax you more or to pass some laws or contracts for certain local companies to gulp your tax dollars, it’s all a joke.
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#7The UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union. Wish people would distinguish between the two. (I was a Remainer by the way!!!)
> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.
Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.
Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
> until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against
It's a cultural description. It's obviously going to depend on collective senses of, well, collectiveness.
Most Americans didn't think of themselves as American until after the Civil War.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.
Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals.
The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons.
I would say Cyprus, not Iceland, is the real anomaly. Much as I like Iceland, it is an outlier in every sense of the word.
I know some people argue that Europe is geographically Asia. Personally I would have divided Asia up into at least three continents.
Re: Digital sovereignty is real in Europe. The UK? Not so much
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals. The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons. I would say Cyprus, not Iceland, is the real anomaly. Much as I like Iceland, it is an outlier in e…
>The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals.
>The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons.
Yes, that's what the maps and textbooks say of course. And I don't disagree with you.
But if you look at how it's actually used in online discourse it's clearly a much more fluid definition based around whatever is of most use to who's invoking it.