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List of most massive black holes

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Re: List of most massive black holes

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From the wiki: Another problem for this list is the method of determining the mass. Such methods, such as broad emission-line reverberation mapping (BLRM), Doppler measurements, velocity dispersion, and the aforementioned M–sigma relation are not yet well established. Most of the time, the masses derived from the given methods, contradict each other's values.

So what that means is "our best guess of a list of most massive black holes".

Re: List of most massive black holes

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From the wiki: Another problem for this list is the method of determining the mass. Such methods, such as broad emission-line reverberation mapping (BLRM), Doppler measurements, velocity dispersion, and the aforementioned M–sigma relation are not yet well established. Most of the time, the masses derived from the given methods, contradict each other's values. So what that means is "our best guess of a list of most ma…

Virtually everything in astronomy is derived from best guesses and inference from absurdly limited available information.

There's very little which can be directly observed. We can't wiggle our heads to gain perspective (even waiting six months to utilise orbital parallax only works for some near stars). We're working with spectral lines, redshifts, "stellar candles" (Cepheid variables, Type 1a supernovae), orbital mechanics, gravitational lensing, and a grab-bag of other tricks to sort out what's happening tens, hundreds, thousands, millions, or billions of light years away. The rest is then extrapolated based on physical models: rates of stellar fusion, time to consume fuel, behaviour of accretion disks, etc.

TFA is pretty interesting in that it notes the specific estimation methodology used to assess SMBH masses.

The fact that any of this is possible is almost magic.

Except, of course, that it's actually science.