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Ferrari Creates a Fake Manual Transmission

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Re: Ferrari Creates a Fake Manual Transmission

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Post by tpmoney »

As someone who enjoys driving a manual transmission car, I'd rather something like this over the "up or down" manual mode gate in most automatic car shifters these days. Not because I think it's going to feel perfect, or because I'm under any illusions that I'd be able to do anything the computer didn't want to do, but because those stupid manual mode gates have such short throws that the experience of using them is worse than just leaving it in auto.

Re: Ferrari Creates a Fake Manual Transmission

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Post by arjvik »

tpmoney wrote: post #3

As someone who enjoys driving a manual transmission car, I'd rather something like this over the "up or down" manual mode gate in most automatic car shifters these days. Not because I think it's going to feel perfect, or because I'm under any illusions that I'd be able to do anything the computer didn't want to do, but because those stupid manual mode gates have such short throws that the experience of using them is…

On your side here!

The clutch (and the potential to money shift your transmission) is _fun_, but not the reason that I want a stick shift - when pushing a car beyond normal limits just having control of when it shifts is enough. That being said, the up/down gate is just no fun! Plus, it lacks any feedback on what gear you're in.

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Post by prmoustache »

tpmoney wrote: post #3

As someone who enjoys driving a manual transmission car, I'd rather something like this over the "up or down" manual mode gate in most automatic car shifters these days. Not because I think it's going to feel perfect, or because I'm under any illusions that I'd be able to do anything the computer didn't want to do, but because those stupid manual mode gates have such short throws that the experience of using them is…

The whole point of these is to be able to do engine braking to save up on brake pads, contamination and avoid brake fade.

Re: Ferrari Creates a Fake Manual Transmission

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Post by tpmoney »

prmoustache wrote: post #6
tpmoney wrote: post #3

As someone who enjoys driving a manual transmission car, I'd rather something like this over the "up or down" manual mode gate in most automatic car shifters these days. Not because I think it's going to feel perfect, or because I'm under any illusions that I'd be able to do anything the computer didn't want to do, but because those stupid manual mode gates have such short throws that the experience of using them is…

The whole point of these is to be able to do engine braking to save up on brake pads, contamination and avoid brake fade.

Automatics had shift positions for lower gears for engine braking when going down steep hills long before the manual gates were common. It might be a convenient design that allows them to accomplish the goal in a slightly smaller package, but it's certainly not required for that functionality.

Re: Ferrari Creates a Fake Manual Transmission

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Post by prmoustache »

tpmoney wrote: post #8
prmoustache wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of these is to be able to do engine braking to save up on brake pads, contamination and avoid brake fade.

Automatics had shift positions for lower gears for engine braking when going down steep hills long before the manual gates were common. It might be a convenient design that allows them to accomplish the goal in a slightly smaller package, but it's certainly not required for that functionality.

Sure it is packaging it in a nicer way but switching to manual is really the only decent reason to do that.
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