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Re: Amazon investigating engineers who criticized AI data center expansion

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Eh, they really shouldn’t be using Amazons name for their group while doing advocacy in their private life. I had to get pretty far down in the article to find that bit, when I was fully ready to pull out the pitchforks against Amazon initially.

Where does it say that in the article, except from the extremely unreliable source of the Amazon HR rep?

Re: Amazon investigating engineers who criticized AI data center expansion

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A practice which apparently is illegal in Seattle:

"The complaint accuses Amazon of violating a Seattle ordinance that prohibits companies from discriminating against employees for their political ideology, race, religion and age, among other things."

Wonder how this will go.

Re: Amazon investigating engineers who criticized AI data center expansion

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A practice which apparently is illegal in Seattle: "The complaint accuses Amazon of violating a Seattle ordinance that prohibits companies from discriminating against employees for their political ideology, race, religion and age, among other things." Wonder how this will go.

Is being against data centers a political ideology? I could be against building data centers in the area I live in, if one were proposed, but I don't see it as an ideology myself.

At most it would be an issue in one aspect of a political ideology (like say a green party is against using coal fired electric power plants and data centers consume fossil fuels, lets say) but being against data center in itself is not a political ideology. I think if they were Amish, I can see it being part of their ideology since they eschew many modern conveniences.

Re: Amazon investigating engineers who criticized AI data center expansion

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Eh, they really shouldn’t be using Amazons name for their group while doing advocacy in their private life. I had to get pretty far down in the article to find that bit, when I was fully ready to pull out the pitchforks against Amazon initially.

The article says that the company /may/ have been speaking in their capacity as Amazon employees and not citizens.

Even if they described themselves as working for Amazon, that doesn't mean they were posing as representatives of the company.

Further, even if this violates Amazon policy -- the policy itself violates Seattle law: https://library.municode.com/wa/seattle/codes/municipal_code...

Re: Amazon investigating engineers who criticized AI data center expansion

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A practice which apparently is illegal in Seattle: "The complaint accuses Amazon of violating a Seattle ordinance that prohibits companies from discriminating against employees for their political ideology, race, religion and age, among other things." Wonder how this will go.

As the article says further down, it really depends on what exactly they said. I can easily see how describing your employer as being engaged in an “all-costs-justified AI build out” could cross the line from political advocacy which happens to impact Amazon to improperly representing Amazon and its business strategy.

There’d be no question, for example, that you can be fired for publishing Amazon’s full internal datacenter buildout plans, even if your city council says they’d like to see them.

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