The forge we deserve
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The forge we deserve
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Re: The forge we deserve
#2> Or perhaps everyone moves to some hot-new-AI-first-forge, and then we go through the same cycle of enshittification in 10-20 years.
I don't think it would take years for an AI first platform to enshittify, it would be instant.
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#3I'm way more hopeful in a fully decentralized protocol like Forgefed* than some AT still-centralized thing.
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#4The forge we deserve is the one that is built for jj and local review.
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#5I'm pretty sure the actual forge we deserve at this point is one that is a membership organisation, eg, owned by its (paying) members.
Members elect the board which chooses the CEO. A cooperative, in other words. The tech is a solved problem, with lots of open source around to do it. Enough members means paid operations and development staff, or outsourcing one or both, or grants to open source devs, etc. The possibility is there.
That's how we prevent cultural drift: by actually controlling the company.
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#6> So, what’s next? There are a lot of Git forges out there.
How about some non-Git forges (like Mercurial forges)? That's what I'd like to see.
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#7I personally just self-host. The project that I'm working on right now uses Gitea internally with an action runner.
I use Digital Ocean and run a Nomad cluster on top of that. Gitea and its action runner builds container images and then pushes nomad job definitions to the cluster. I have zero downtime deployment and rolling deploys. Dagger.io is in there somewhere to make local CI mirror what happens in the action runner.
Setting up Gitea was honestly just an afternoon of work. The sqlite database is backed up to Cloudflare R2 and the code is mirrored. It's unlikely that my project will take off to the point that I'll need to upgrade Gitea to something else, but it's extremely easy to setup, maintain, and build CI/CD on top of.
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#8I would love to see a forge that consists of composable components, self-host able with federated identities and maybe a few centralized indexers
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#9> So, what’s next? There are a lot of Git forges out there. How about some non-Git forges (like Mercurial forges)? That's what I'd like to see.
I miss mercurial sometimes, but we have so much tooling around git these days...
Re: The forge we deserve
#10I'm way more hopeful in a fully decentralized protocol like Forgefed* than some AT still-centralized thing. * https://forgefed.org/
Cool. It's been years since ForgeFed came out but it isn't anywhere nearly as federated as Tangled is. What gives?