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DOJ claims xAI's gas turbines are a matter of 'national and energy security'

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Re: DOJ claims xAI's gas turbines are a matter of 'national and energy security'

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Ugh, what violation of local law can't be excused by specious "national security" claims?

> resulting in a corresponding increase in three major air pollutants:

Sometimes I wonder how valuable it would be to go to vulnerable areas (ecologically or socio-economically) and record baseline pollution, noise, etc. readings, simply to give future residents some statistical ammunition against some New Thing ruins the old implicit standard of safety and comfort.

I guess the problem is you don't always know what to measure until it's nearly too late, such as if the problem is a new chemical that needs a particular test to measure, or noise that isn't about raw decibels but causes problems with particular frequencies and harmonics, etc.

Re: DOJ claims xAI's gas turbines are a matter of 'national and energy security'

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post #2

Ugh, what violation of local law can't be excused by specious "national security" claims? > resulting in a corresponding increase in three major air pollutants: Sometimes I wonder how valuable it would be to go to vulnerable areas (ecologically or socio-economically) and record baseline pollution, noise, etc. readings, simply to give future residents some statistical ammunition against some New Thing ruins the old im…

>The company, which is now a division of SpaceX, is likely to buy more generators in the coming months or years. In SpaceX’s IPO filing, the company said that it will buy another $2.8 billion worth of gas turbines to power its AI data centers over the next three years. Of that, at least $2 billion are earmarked for “mobile gas turbines.”

SpaceX, the new Tesla... who saw that coming? :(

Re: DOJ claims xAI's gas turbines are a matter of 'national and energy security'

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Ugh, what violation of local law can't be excused by specious "national security" claims? > resulting in a corresponding increase in three major air pollutants: Sometimes I wonder how valuable it would be to go to vulnerable areas (ecologically or socio-economically) and record baseline pollution, noise, etc. readings, simply to give future residents some statistical ammunition against some New Thing ruins the old im…

>The company, which is now a division of SpaceX, is likely to buy more generators in the coming months or years. In SpaceX’s IPO filing, the company said that it will buy another $2.8 billion worth of gas turbines to power its AI data centers over the next three years. Of that, at least $2 billion are earmarked for “mobile gas turbines.” SpaceX, the new Tesla... who saw that coming? :(

Timnit Gebru was laughed out of town for overlooking research into making LLMs more energy efficient. By the logic used to drag her through the mud, Musk must be a total idiot to be buying so much fossil fuel capacity. Truly, nobody could see this coming. Must be 5d chess.

Re: DOJ claims xAI's gas turbines are a matter of 'national and energy security'

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Is the plan to use the gas turbines temporarily until the grid connection is upgraded?

Its obviously a permanent fixture. And well, electricity by virtue of having been around for 100+ years as a mass market product has been utterly ossified, saddled with far too onerous regulations and taxes and is being driven by inflexible, uninterested practitioners.

Of course someone will go „its just energy“ and use almost free natural gas. In some places in the US a diesel generator with gas from the pump is likely cheaper too.

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