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America has lost its war with Iran

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Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by sleepyguy »

It ain't over until Bibi says it's over. Trump is pissing his pants trying to get out of this anyway he can but Bibi won't let him. I'm sure our military was against this from day one, but the Fox news host and the Real Estate developer thought they knew better but, in the end Bibi and Israel call the shots and America obeys....

Just saying...Junk away...

Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by tru3_power »

sleepyguy wrote: post #2

It ain't over until Bibi says it's over. Trump is pissing his pants trying to get out of this anyway he can but Bibi won't let him. I'm sure our military was against this from day one, but the Fox news host and the Real Estate developer thought they knew better but, in the end Bibi and Israel call the shots and America obeys.... Just saying...Junk away...

Let’s say this is the case it still does not explain what the real end game looks like. What do you think?

Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by Danox »

tru3_power wrote: post #3
sleepyguy wrote: post #2

It ain't over until Bibi says it's over. Trump is pissing his pants trying to get out of this anyway he can but Bibi won't let him. I'm sure our military was against this from day one, but the Fox news host and the Real Estate developer thought they knew better but, in the end Bibi and Israel call the shots and America obeys.... Just saying...Junk away...

Let’s say this is the case it still does not explain what the real end game looks like. What do you think?

The real game is that the US isn’t in charge, and the guy in the White House is in over his head along with his yes men and the rest of the world appears to be making arrangements and moving on.

Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by dragontamer »

A bad peace will be better than this war. I know people want to stick this into some kind of winners vs losers discussion but I for one would be happy if it reliably ended.

It's very difficult for me to think of such a terrible peace agreement that I'd personally reject it.

Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by sleepyguy »

tru3_power wrote: post #3
sleepyguy wrote: post #2

It ain't over until Bibi says it's over. Trump is pissing his pants trying to get out of this anyway he can but Bibi won't let him. I'm sure our military was against this from day one, but the Fox news host and the Real Estate developer thought they knew better but, in the end Bibi and Israel call the shots and America obeys.... Just saying...Junk away...

Let’s say this is the case it still does not explain what the real end game looks like. What do you think?

I don't know. It's a quagmire where America finds itself with no good options.

Bibi and Israel set in motion a trap that the USA can't easily escape. Netanyahu never believed America would back down, and America never believed it could lose.

So what now?

Do you surrender? Do you invade?

Trump and Hegseth, being the fools they are, were never equipped to deal with a situation like this. The only outcome they seriously considered was Iranian surrender. They seemed convinced that Iran would fold, and gave little thought to what happens if it doesn't.

Re: America has lost its war with Iran

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Post by ElProlactin »

Danox wrote: post #4
tru3_power wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s say this is the case it still does not explain what the real end game looks like. What do you think?

The real game is that the US isn’t in charge, and the guy in the White House is in over his head along with his yes men and the rest of the world appears to be making arrangements and moving on.

> ...and the rest of the world appears to be making arrangements and moving on.

This. Pax Americana is dead.

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