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Under-16s to be banned from social media, Starmer announces

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Re: Under-16s to be banned from social media, Starmer announces

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> The ban will therefore include platforms like Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and X.

> "We do not intend for messaging services like WhatsApp and Signal to be included in the social media ban."

YouTube is a bit of a surprise here, but I guess with Shorts they put themselves in the same category as Tiktok, etc.

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> The ban will therefore include platforms like Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and X. > "We do not intend for messaging services like WhatsApp and Signal to be included in the social media ban." YouTube is a bit of a surprise here, but I guess with Shorts they put themselves in the same category as Tiktok, etc.

There is this weird attempt to claim YouTube isn't social media from Google and others, but it's literally called "You Tube". It was designed as social media from the start, it's impossible to separate this without changing the name and everything about how it works except the films and series available to pay for.

Re: Under-16s to be banned from social media, Starmer announces

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It’s a failure of capitalism that one of the greatest educational resources in four generations (YouTube) gets walled off to those who need it most. I’d say shame on Google for letting shorts ruin this for the kids, or shame on the UK government for short-sightedness, but it’s pretty easy to see where both are coming from.

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post #2

> The ban will therefore include platforms like Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and X. > "We do not intend for messaging services like WhatsApp and Signal to be included in the social media ban." YouTube is a bit of a surprise here, but I guess with Shorts they put themselves in the same category as Tiktok, etc.

I think YouTube is one of the more critical ones to ban. Yes it has educational content but it’s also full of absolute brain rot. I’ve seen a lot of “but how will people study for exams” arguments - the answer is the same way they always have. Books. Test scores aren’t exactly going up so the idea that YouTube is critical to school learning is nonsense.

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> The ban will therefore include platforms like Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and X. > "We do not intend for messaging services like WhatsApp and Signal to be included in the social media ban." YouTube is a bit of a surprise here, but I guess with Shorts they put themselves in the same category as Tiktok, etc.

Yeah I don't think they've thought that through. YouTube hosts a mountain of educational content, e.g. the Khan Academy. That's now banned in the UK for under 16s.

Re: Under-16s to be banned from social media, Starmer announces

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It’s a failure of capitalism that one of the greatest educational resources in four generations (YouTube) gets walled off to those who need it most. I’d say shame on Google for letting shorts ruin this for the kids, or shame on the UK government for short-sightedness, but it’s pretty easy to see where both are coming from.

my my nieces are always "how do you know so much"

I then show them my playlist on youtube (veretassium, tomscott, redvsblue, pbs eons etc)

they go back to scrolling though shorts right after.

you can lead a horse to water but well...

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