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Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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Re: Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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Won't somebody think of the children appears to be the world's most effective method of bringing in restrictive and privacy destroying laws, yet they just don't work.

Well yes, the great cabal of people bringing in these immense rafts of surveillance are the very people who commit, or who certainly hang out with the people who commit the most heinous acts. See the Epstein files.

Notice the same people will also talk during the daytime about morals and equality, while then conducting genocide in the evening.

Re: Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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> Surveillance Is Not Safety Maybe not, but as long as the average person thinks it is, it may as well be.

Does the average person think this? Perception of what other people think doesn't always line up with what they actually think.

Re: Surveillance is not safety: A statement on the UK's latest threat to privacy [pdf]

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> Surveillance Is Not Safety Maybe not, but as long as the average person thinks it is, it may as well be.

Does the average person think this? Perception of what other people think doesn't always line up with what they actually think.

I doubt the average person gives it much thought at all.

This certainly isn't a result of democratic overreach by a concerned group of citizens. No demographic is demanding this.

It's one of those "create the infrastructure for stasi 2.0" the epstein elite tries to periodically ram down our throats ironically using "think of the children" to manufacture consent.

The last time they did this they contracted saatchi and saatchi to run an a disturbing campaign: https://londondaily.com/revealed-uk-gov-t-plans-publicity-bl...

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Yes, but this is preaching to the choir.

The counter must be as visceral is the claim. They make an emotional pitch:your children are in danger, surveillance is the solution. The counter must show the dangers in visceral, emotionally relevant way. This surveillance is actually a risk to parents and children as well - that by the accusation of an opaque, unaccountable system, you will be labelled a pedophile, and your kids taken away. That when sharing a picture of your own child with your own mother, you will have to worry about what the electronic bureaucracy will label your picture as.

Abstractions like privacy,and categorical claims, aren't going to reverse this. A properly pitched campaign could do. Sure, complain that politicians and the public are dumb. That may make you feel better but it won't change this an iota. Talking to people in the terms they care about might.

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