WoofWare.PawPrint, a Deterministic .NET Runtime

Smaug123 wrote: post #2

Something of a passion project. It's going to fail horribly if you try and use it, I'm sure, but it can already do some neat stuff!

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Post by pjmlp » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 7:51 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #3

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Apparently the gRPC improvements to use shared memory when client and server are on the same, something common on network RPC not yet supported by gRPC, was done by Mark Russinovich, with agents.

https://github.com/markrussinovich/shmem

It is one example described on one of his AI talks at BUILD.

If the PR gets accepted, here is your AI contribution to core technology.

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Post by SeanAnderson » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 7:55 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #4

Smaug123 wrote: post #2

Something of a passion project. It's going to fail horribly if you try and use it, I'm sure, but it can already do some neat stuff!

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because some software engineers enjoy shipping usable software more than writing the code needed to do so?

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Post by bri3d » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 7:58 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #3

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LLM rant aside, I think this comment is built on a fundamental misunderstanding of what this is. This kind of runtime is an advanced debugging tool for exploring extreme edge cases in a repeatable way, not the thing you’d run your production apps on.

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Post by moron4hire » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 7:59 PM UTC

SeanAnderson wrote: post #6

moron4hire wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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because some software engineers enjoy shipping usable software more than writing the code needed to do so?

What does that have to do with LLMs? There's morev to delivering value to the customer than just shipping code. We used to understand that technical debt was an existential risk to a project. I can't see how "code nobody understands" is not technical debt.

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Post by MattRix » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 8:05 PM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #3

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I mean maybe I’m missing the point but it seems like it’s intended to be more of a tool for debugging race conditions, than a runtime you actually ship with. For that purpose I think using an LLM is fine.

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Post by moron4hire » Sat, Jun 06, 2026, 8:07 PM UTC

bri3d wrote: post #7

moron4hire wrote: post #3

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LLM rant aside, I think this comment is built on a fundamental misunderstanding of what this is. This kind of runtime is an advanced debugging tool for exploring extreme edge cases in a repeatable way, not the thing you’d run your production apps on.

I mean, if I'm in a situation in which I need more powerful debugging tools than what I already have available, then I kind of want to know those tools have been built with care. If I'm deep in the weeds of trying to deliver and I'm desperately reaching for something outside of the standard tool set, I'd like the person who made that tool to have crafted it in a dwarven forge under a pale moonlight. Not to have thrown to their hands and admit a tool with the intelligence of a smart working dog breed is smarter than them.