Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
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Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
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Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#2I find it useful that if they cut the use altogether I will pay for it out of pocket.
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#3I find it useful that if they cut the use altogether I will pay for it out of pocket.
Maybe that's the plan :)
But on a more serious note, do we know how much Uber spent per technical employee/month? I assume it is far more than even any of those $200 "max ai" plans.
And the other question is how much the public would be willing to spend, in my estimation this is as "cheap" as it will ever get (main-stream at least).
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#4>"He said that, based on talks with Uber's senior engineering leaders, he realized higher token usage did not translate into a proportional increase in useful consumer features."
Goodhart's law strikes again at someone with enough power to be both ignorant of it and make others suffer their ignorance. You cannot simply measure productivity by tokens spent just like you can't measure it by hours spent in a chair at a desk.
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#5>"He said that, based on talks with Uber's senior engineering leaders, he realized higher token usage did not translate into a proportional increase in useful consumer features." Goodhart's law strikes again at someone with enough power to be both ignorant of it and make others suffer their ignorance. You cannot simply measure productivity by tokens spent just like you can't measure it by hours spent in a chair at a…
You can measure productivity by hours spent at a desk?
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#6I find it useful that if they cut the use altogether I will pay for it out of pocket.
Maybe that's the plan :) But on a more serious note, do we know how much Uber spent per technical employee/month? I assume it is far more than even any of those $200 "max ai" plans. And the other question is how much the public would be willing to spend, in my estimation this is as "cheap" as it will ever get (main-stream at least).
> I assume it is far more than even any of those $200 "max ai" plans.
Am in a random small company, colleague spent 100 EUR a day on Sonnet through AWS Bedrock (needed to use a EU region). Paying for tokens will get you in a deep hole financially compared to any of the subscriptions, unless it's like DeepSeek or one of the other models that are priced a bit better, though that's also a tradeoff in what they can/cannot do and also where the data goes. Ended up trying out the Mistral subscription for the US stuff btw, it was fine.
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#7I find it useful that if they cut the use altogether I will pay for it out of pocket.
Maybe that's the plan :) But on a more serious note, do we know how much Uber spent per technical employee/month? I assume it is far more than even any of those $200 "max ai" plans. And the other question is how much the public would be willing to spend, in my estimation this is as "cheap" as it will ever get (main-stream at least).
bigCo’s don’t get to do the $200 Max plans, they have unlimited plans but get charged like API
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#8It’s funny that “maxxing” entered the common vocabulary.
Re: Uber’s COO says it’s getting harder to justify money spent on tokenmaxxing
#9As soon as tokens stop stop being subsidized, heavy agentic use will become as least as expensive than paying an (entry level) employee. When this happens many companies will trade off havy tolen usage for (maybe a bit slower, bit less accurate) employees again.
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