Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by bittersweet » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:36 PM UTC

Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu
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Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by jbigelow76 » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:40 PM UTC

I wonder how many users Charm had and I wonder how many would have been needed to make porting the code from Rails to something like Java worth it.

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by sdrgalvis » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:48 PM UTC

Did they test other linux distros?

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by pixelbeat » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:48 PM UTC

This seems like a bit of a cop out? Why not try a new kernel or separate stack like Fedora for example?

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by sdrgalvis » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:50 PM UTC

pixelbeat wrote: post #4

This seems like a bit of a cop out? Why not try a new kernel or separate stack like Fedora for example?

I think so. does the blame totally belong to Ubuntu?

This is the first time I read a case like this

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by facorreia » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:51 PM UTC

Does this make sense? They don't mention trying to get support from Engine Yard on hosting their app on Rails without kernel panics, or trying a managed solution such as Heroku, or trying other OSs other than Ubuntu such as CentOS or something from Joyent. Just trying with the best possible syadmin they could hire and "Rails Core members".

Anyway, kudos for not submitting their users to a service they're not confident they would be able to provide with adequate quality and better luck next time!

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by jfb » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:55 PM UTC

pixelbeat wrote: post #4

This seems like a bit of a cop out? Why not try a new kernel or separate stack like Fedora for example?

They spent over $100k on sysadm/devops and couldn't try to deploy a different kernel? What?

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by googoobaby » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:56 PM UTC

This is truly idiotic. Are they such diehard "Rubyists" that they'd continue to pour resources into a platform that doesn't work?

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by nateberkopec » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 3:57 PM UTC

What was Charm? What did it do?

100k for "infrastructure alone" seems like a massive investment for a startup. How far along were they?

Re: Charm shutting down because of unfixable kernel panics with Rails on Ubuntu

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Post by dazzawazza » Wed, Nov 21, 2012, 4:01 PM UTC

If rails causes a kernel panic then this is really a bug in the kernel. No user land app should ever do this. Why not try to scale on *BSD or Windows all of whom have different kernel and scale just fine?

$100,000 and no one said "hey what about running it on "?