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Re: The other half of AI safety

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"There is no independent audit, no time series, no disclosed methodology, so we have no idea whether the real figure is higher, whether it is growing, or how it compares across the other frontier models, none of which publish equivalent data."

Tip for writers: aggressively filter out the "no X, no Y, no Z" pattern from your writing. Whether or not you used AI to help you write it's such a red flag now that you should be actively avoiding it in anything you publish.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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> Why is mental-health crisis not a gating category, the kind where the conversation stops, full stop, and the user is routed to a human? This is one of many questions I can’t find concrete answers for.

I don't know if there are studies or concrete data either way, but it seems at least plausible that continuing the conversation could be more effective (read: saves more lives) than stopping it.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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The bad cases make headlines. But I think it's quite possible that AI is helping a lot of people in distress. Many people are uncomfortable opening up to humans, or have no one to talk to, or can't afford to fork over whatever-hourly-rate a therapist takes.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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post #4

The bad cases make headlines. But I think it's quite possible that AI is helping a lot of people in distress. Many people are uncomfortable opening up to humans, or have no one to talk to, or can't afford to fork over whatever-hourly-rate a therapist takes.

So how many bad cases are ok? Isn't this the same problem with social media: the commercial enterprises dont want any responsibility for their dark pattern and design choices which actively harm their users.

I get that all kinds of media can cause issues, but not all kinds of media are actively curated to be addictive.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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I don't buy that chatGPT is actually doing these users any harm.

I think openAI is doing the best they reasonably can with a very difficult class of users, whose problems are neither their fault nor within their power to fix.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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OpenAI has 900 million weekly active users. So around 0.01% are having problems. That's actually way less than population level measures for the same symptoms on a bigger percentage of people relative to the US on just suicidal ideation alone.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/wr/mm7412a4.htm

Re: The other half of AI safety

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>Why is mental-health crisis not a gating category, the kind where the conversation stops, full stop, and the user is routed to a human? there aren't enough humans.

I'll agree with this, but I think transparency about how often these situations arise and what they've done to mitigate is a legal necessity.

Re: The other half of AI safety

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I don't buy that chatGPT is actually doing these users any harm. I think openAI is doing the best they reasonably can with a very difficult class of users, whose problems are neither their fault nor within their power to fix.

I think this is the right take, and this is genuinely something that we as a society as a whole need to find a way to deal with.

I don’t know where AI is going to stand compared to the invention of, say, the Internet, but it’s going to cause a lot of change in society, in so many ways.

As always, it’s usually the people themselves that are the problem.

For me, I’m personally more terrified what deepfakes and political manipulation / misinformation is going to do, combined with social media, and have a feeling that governments are completely unprepared to deal with this, as this will arrive fast (it’s already here somewhat).

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