New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
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Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#2This will have no effect on ICE. A state can’t regulate a federal police force.
I also don’t get the obsession of democrat politicians with protecting illegal immigrants. I don’t support ICE’s violation of constitutional rights or brutality. But blue states and cities are also just being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. It’s not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants and this is going to hurt the chance of a midterm blue wave, not help it.
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#3California's similar law was struck down by court on the basis that states can't legislate federal agencies.
https://calmatters.org/justice/2026/04/immigration-mask-ban-...
> An 1890 Supreme Court case provides that a state cannot prosecute federal law enforcement officers acting in the course of their duties.
> The law also ran headlong into the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which holds that states may not regulate the operations of the federal government.
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#4This will have no effect on ICE. A state can’t regulate a federal police force. I also don’t get the obsession of democrat politicians with protecting illegal immigrants. I don’t support ICE’s violation of constitutional rights or brutality. But blue states and cities are also just being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. It’s not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants and this is going to hurt the chance of…
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Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#5This will have no effect on ICE. A state can’t regulate a federal police force. I also don’t get the obsession of democrat politicians with protecting illegal immigrants. I don’t support ICE’s violation of constitutional rights or brutality. But blue states and cities are also just being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. It’s not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants and this is going to hurt the chance of…
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"Cliché parroting" makes for a nice sound bite but in this case it is not the best description of what the parent does. If you want to use a two-word phrase to describe his claim I'd go for "pattern recognition" to which I'd concur that yes, indeed, there is a clear pattern of blue states and cities [...] being obstructionist and sheltering criminals.
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
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"Cliché parroting" makes for a nice sound bite but in this case it is not the best description of what the parent does. If you want to use a two-word phrase to describe his claim I'd go for "pattern recognition" to which I'd concur that yes, indeed, there is a clear pattern of blue states and cities [...] being obstructionist and sheltering criminals .
Criminals or as yet undocumented immigrants who have yet to complete their paperwork given the slow grind of US processing?
Other countries deal with such things by immediately granting an in processing status.
The US appears to have a cartoonish approach to good / evil that's just comical from a distance.
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#7This will have no effect on ICE. A state can’t regulate a federal police force. I also don’t get the obsession of democrat politicians with protecting illegal immigrants. I don’t support ICE’s violation of constitutional rights or brutality. But blue states and cities are also just being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. It’s not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants and this is going to hurt the chance of…
What have they said is their rationale?
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#8Would it be better to require standard uniforms and visible badge numbers?
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Cliché parroting" makes for a nice sound bite but in this case it is not the best description of what the parent does. If you want to use a two-word phrase to describe his claim I'd go for "pattern recognition" to which I'd concur that yes, indeed, there is a clear pattern of blue states and cities [...] being obstructionist and sheltering criminals .
Criminals or as yet undocumented immigrants who have yet to complete their paperwork given the slow grind of US processing? Other countries deal with such things by immediately granting an in processing status. The US appears to have a cartoonish approach to good / evil that's just comical from a distance.
Those who go through the official migration paths - in the U.S.A. or elsewhere, doesn't matter - are not "illegal aliens" so that word play with "as yet undocumented immigrants" doesn't hold. People who are waiting for their paperwork to go through the official channels will have some form of proof of their application status. If they were told they could await the results while in the U.S.A they're not illegal aliens, if they were told to await permission outside of the U.S.A they are. Those who cross the border with the intent to stay without legal permission are "illegal aliens" and are in violation of whatever laws cover migration - 8 US code § 1325 in the U.S.A, artikel 197 Wetboek van Strafrecht (for those declared unwanted) and artikel 61-67 Vreemdelingenwet in the Netherlands, etc. Some of these illegal aliens violate other (criminal) laws which makes them "criminal illegal aliens" but everyone who stays in a country - any country - without legal permission has violated whatever laws cover migration into that country.
Re: New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks
#10Would it be better to require standard uniforms and visible badge numbers?
It would be even better if they didn't wear masks, required standard uniforms and visible badge numbers, and also were trained properly and also were held accountable when they behaved badly.