Live data from Hacker News

Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

ij.org

1–10 of 114 posts

Re: Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

#4

"at least" is doing a lot of work here. That's just what was analyzed. You have to assume the behavior is much more prevalent.

Why? Is there something about their dataset and/or methodology that you can identify as deficient that would indicate that the rate is much higher than what was published?

I agree with the sentiment, but if you want anyone to do anything about it we need evidence and not vibes.

I'm trying to help you make your case. So far the only comments in this thread are the most low-effort reactions that don't say anything substantive.

Re: Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

#5
In my town, we have Flock. I request the audit logs that show how police are searching the Flock system.

In November 2025 and prior, the logs were listed by USERID and I could independently correlate quantity of searches by USERID to detect unusual search behavior. This same methodology has been used to catch police stalking in at least one other city.

In December 2025, Flock decided to "improve" its system. All searches on the audit log are now completely serialized, anonymized. This "improvement" came after 2025 turned out several cases of police stalking using Flock.

Re: Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

#7
post #5

In my town, we have Flock. I request the audit logs that show how police are searching the Flock system. In November 2025 and prior, the logs were listed by USERID and I could independently correlate quantity of searches by USERID to detect unusual search behavior. This same methodology has been used to catch police stalking in at least one other city. In December 2025, Flock decided to "improve" its system. All sear…

I would guess the only way to make this data available long term is by regulation. Then again, I would hope Flock is subject to FOIA already if they are collaborating with state or local law enforcement...

Re: Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

#8

"at least" is doing a lot of work here. That's just what was analyzed. You have to assume the behavior is much more prevalent.

Why? Is there something about their dataset and/or methodology that you can identify as deficient that would indicate that the rate is much higher than what was published? I agree with the sentiment, but if you want anyone to do anything about it we need evidence and not vibes. I'm trying to help you make your case. So far the only comments in this thread are the most low-effort reactions that don't say anything subs…

The data set IJ is providing here is situations where stalking was reported/suspected, investigated, discovered, and prosecuted. Other stalking cases could fail any one of those stages and be invisible to the public.

Re: Police Have Used License Plate Readers at Least 14x to Stalk Romantic Interests

#9
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is there something about their dataset and/or methodology that you can identify as deficient that would indicate that the rate is much higher than what was published? I agree with the sentiment, but if you want anyone to do anything about it we need evidence and not vibes. I'm trying to help you make your case. So far the only comments in this thread are the most low-effort reactions that don't say anything subs…

The data set IJ is providing here is situations where stalking was reported/suspected, investigated, discovered, and prosecuted. Other stalking cases could fail any one of those stages and be invisible to the public.

> Other stalking cases could fail any one of those stages and be invisible to the public.

"could" is doing a lot of work here...

> where stalking was reported/suspected, investigated, discovered, and prosecuted.

No, that's not what IJ said. From the article: "Nearly all of these officers were criminally charged and lost their jobs, either by resigning or getting fired."

So not all 14 of these were "reported/suspected, investigated, discovered, and prosecuted".

If you're trying to make significant social change, make the strongest argument that you are capable of.

Post reply on HN