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ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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> For example, is it possible that unknown to the public there were multiple launches of artificial satellites long before Sputnik with some launches timed to coincide with U.S. nuclear tests? Or rather, do the current findings represent detection of a non-human technosignature? Due to data limitations, such hypotheses cannot be subjected to falsification.

Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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Transient 'objects' after nuclear tests are quite possibly high energy radiation from the tests themselves. Remember these are on film, and the film is likely removed from its protective housing for some time before, during, and after imaging. (And in many cases protective housing wouldn't help anyway.)

I get the sense that this topic is popular because "aliens y'all". It's much more likely to be radiation. It's possible that atomic tests kick luminous particles into the upper atmosphere. But it's not aliens.

Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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> For example, is it possible that unknown to the public there were multiple launches of artificial satellites long before Sputnik with some launches timed to coincide with U.S. nuclear tests? Or rather, do the current findings represent detection of a non-human technosignature? Due to data limitations, such hypotheses cannot be subjected to falsification.

This is why we need better education in this country.

Anyone who has read any amount of history from this time should know that this is very simply not possible.

This statment is unfalsifiable in the same way that "I'm a six-legged alien from Venus typing this message from orbit" is unfalsifiable. It's just flat nonsense.

Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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Not saying...

I’m too out of the loop I guess — can you please tell me what you’re not saying? As thanks, I won’t tell you what I am saying :P

It's too large to write in the margin of this book...

Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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"Now, we're not saying its aliens but coincidentally here's a recent paper authored by some of us:"*

A cost-effective search for extraterrestrial probes in the Solar system

https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article/546/2/staf1158/822188...

*Not an actual quote

Re: ML supports existence of unrecognized transient astronomical phenomena

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> For example, is it possible that unknown to the public there were multiple launches of artificial satellites long before Sputnik with some launches timed to coincide with U.S. nuclear tests? Or rather, do the current findings represent detection of a non-human technosignature? Due to data limitations, such hypotheses cannot be subjected to falsification.

This is why we need better education in this country. Anyone who has read any amount of history from this time should know that this is very simply not possible. This statment is unfalsifiable in the same way that "I'm a six-legged alien from Venus typing this message from orbit" is unfalsifiable. It's just flat nonsense.

This actually _is_ falsifiable; I've written before that you can determine whether the point-spread function of the transients match the PSF of stars. If not, then it does not come from outer space, it's an issue with the film, i.e., radiation.
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