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People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by E-Reverance »

kristianc wrote: post #3
E-Reverance wrote: post #2

Maybe a nitpicky HN comment, but why are we lumping the term automation with very recent grievances about certain kinds of automation

The article literally draws that distinction in the first paragraph.

It does?

" Software brain is powerful stuff. It’s a way of thinking that basically created our modern world. Marc Andreessen, the literal embodiment of software brain, called it in 2011 when he wrote the piece “Why software is eating the world” as an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal. But software thinking has been turbocharged by AI in a way that I think helps explain the enormous gap between how excited the tech industry is about the technology and how regular people are growing to dislike it more and more over time. "

Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by preommr »

Obviously not.

People don't care about the tech, they care about the second-order effects like cheaper prices, and more flexibility.

Also, the article is way too broad, you can't treat automation and it's applications in law along with just "vibes" about how people feel about AI.

Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by pixl97 »

E-Reverance wrote: post #2

Maybe a nitpicky HN comment, but why are we lumping the term automation with very recent grievances about certain kinds of automation

I mean, even going back, people had all kinds of problems with all kinds of automations, e.g. Luddites and the subsequent starving in the streets.

I mean, I would think the opposite it the truth.

Other than a few masochist CEOs, most people don't like having to work for a living to ensure they don't starve and are homeless. It's just in the current paradigm it's what we have do to. And because we have to do it, people get really nervous when rich people attempt to replace human work with automation. Not because we won't have to work, but because we will have to starve.

Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by fmajid »

People totally do want to offload the drudgery. That's why there is such a thing as dishwashers, and why OpenAI has 90 million users. But they also want the drudgery to be done reliably and not require as much work checking as it would have doing it in the first place.

Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by E-Reverance »

pixl97 wrote: post #7
E-Reverance wrote: post #2

Maybe a nitpicky HN comment, but why are we lumping the term automation with very recent grievances about certain kinds of automation

I mean, even going back, people had all kinds of problems with all kinds of automations, e.g. Luddites and the subsequent starving in the streets. I mean, I would think the opposite it the truth. Other than a few masochist CEOs, most people don't like having to work for a living to ensure they don't starve and are homeless. It's just in the current paradigm it's what we have do to. And because we have to do it, peopl…

People not wanting their jobs be automated is different from not yearning for automation as a principle. Most people want or (at least don't mind) elevators, tap water, dishwashers, traffic lights, electrical fuses, sliding doors, etc. Its a very general term

Re: People Do Not Yearn for Automation

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Post by E-Reverance »

preommr wrote: post #6

Obviously not. People don't care about the tech, they care about the second-order effects like cheaper prices, and more flexibility. Also, the article is way too broad, you can't treat automation and it's applications in law along with just "vibes" about how people feel about AI.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if journalist are getting high on their own supply of resentment and fear mongering
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