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MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by Trannosaur »

What is it with mesh projects and having these super draconian trademark enforcers? Meshtastic is the same. One of the main reasons I got interested in MeshCore was reading the Meshtastic trademark rules and just finding them... really really over the top.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by tbyehl »

Trannosaur wrote: post #2

What is it with mesh projects and having these super draconian trademark enforcers? Meshtastic is the same. One of the main reasons I got interested in MeshCore was reading the Meshtastic trademark rules and just finding them... really really over the top.

I don't know any of the players but I'd bet they're licensed amateur radio operators.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by queenkjuul »

Trannosaur wrote: post #2

What is it with mesh projects and having these super draconian trademark enforcers? Meshtastic is the same. One of the main reasons I got interested in MeshCore was reading the Meshtastic trademark rules and just finding them... really really over the top.

All meshtastic code is GPL, the name "meshtastic" is owned by the company that developed it. You can use any of the code, you can't use their name outside their rules. This is absolutely no different than, say, Firefox. The trademark policy is very permissable and you don't even need their permission to use the name on a commercial product.

I think it's totally sensible for the organization to want to have some level of control over what gets their label on it -- the Wi-Fi people wouldn't be very happy about someone slapping their logo all over a bunch of completely incompatible hardware.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by fooqux »

tbyehl wrote: post #4
Trannosaur wrote: post #2

What is it with mesh projects and having these super draconian trademark enforcers? Meshtastic is the same. One of the main reasons I got interested in MeshCore was reading the Meshtastic trademark rules and just finding them... really really over the top.

I don't know any of the players but I'd bet they're licensed amateur radio operators.

So?

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by busterarm »

fooqux wrote: post #6
tbyehl wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know any of the players but I'd bet they're licensed amateur radio operators.

So?

IYKYK. Hams are known for a distinctive personality type that can be at strong odds from other tech people and other comms people. Usually in ways that clash with consequences.

I know a few hams that are chill and they are precious doves. I know quite a few more who I won't even engage with for fear of crossing them and them dedicating their lives to making mine hell. Because I've seen them do it to others.

That's not _just_ the hams, mind you. This behavior is overrepresented in hackerspaces in general. But there's a lot of overlap between those groups. Hasn't changed much in the 40-some-odd years I've been involved there either.

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by queenkjuul »

the_gipsy wrote: post #3

Is this client app still closed source? Non-starter for me, also a strong indicator that anything like this was bound to happen, and this will not be the end of it.

Wow, very surprised to learn that it is closed source, and that's probably not changing.

My local mesh was testing out meshcore last week, this definitely kills my interest too

Re: MeshCore development team splits over trademark dispute and AI-generated code

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Post by dostick »

busterarm wrote: post #8
fooqux wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So?

IYKYK. Hams are known for a distinctive personality type that can be at strong odds from other tech people and other comms people. Usually in ways that clash with consequences. I know a few hams that are chill and they are precious doves. I know quite a few more who I won't even engage with for fear of crossing them and them dedicating their lives to making mine hell. Because I've seen them do it to others. That's no…

What is IYKYK ? If you know you know?
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