A Boy That Cried Mythos: Verification Is Collapsing Trust in Anthropic
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#2Am I supposed to know what a “system card” is?
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#3Am I supposed to know what a “system card” is?
Yes
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#4Am I supposed to know what a “system card” is?
https://www.anthropic.com/system-cards generally, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47679406 more specifically (I'm guessing the article didn't link directly because it's an unreleased model and there are only preview versions maybe, given all the cdn links?)
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#6"Sonnet sees the same two “obvious” bugs. It just cannot close the exploitation step. Mythos’s entire frontier advantage over the prior model is therefore bupkis."
What a bizarre conclusion. It "just" cannot close the exploitation step? "Just?"
Developing the working exploit is the hardest part, not finding the bugs. A self-proclaimed security professional should know this.
How is this stuff even making it to the top of HN? Is it just the trendy Anthropic hate? I wonder if these folks will publicly walk back their statements if Mythos turns out to be legit.
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#7"Sonnet sees the same two “obvious” bugs. It just cannot close the exploitation step. Mythos’s entire frontier advantage over the prior model is therefore bupkis." What a bizarre conclusion. It "just" cannot close the exploitation step? "Just?" Developing the working exploit is the hardest part , not finding the bugs. A self-proclaimed security professional should know this. How is this stuff even making it to the to…
I wonder if these fanboys will publicly walk back their statements if Mythos turns out to BS.
Remember, in French, mythos is short for mythomanes that means "pathological liars"
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#9I wouldn’t be surprised if the glasswing thing comes with an NDA akin to what the NSA wants you to sign when you join. That would be the Anthropic-optimistic interpretation of the sound of crickets from participants - and ‘responsible disclosure’ would be an ok-ish reason for Anthropic itself to not publish what they found themselves alone.
If it’s indeed as bad as the article says it’s going to be a (yet another) PR disaster, but it won’t matter one bit as the whole industry is compute-constrained, not reputation-constrained. You’ll shout at clouds and them and their competitors and still be paying for tokens.
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#10Apparently this doom marketing strategy is working for landing enterprise deals, but boy these AI companies are stirring up consumer hate and fear.
I think the real purpose of the Mythos security sham is to mask that Anthropic simply can't release their new model because their data centers are already on fire. There are so many other red flags pointing to this: the no-Claude-Code-for-Pro-users "test", the AWS data center rental deal, the fact Microsoft rug pulled hard on Copilot, specifically removing Opus... and that's just the past 2 days?