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We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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We built a standalone C++/ggml speculative decoder for Qwen3.5-27B Q4_K_M with a DFlash block-diffusion draft.

207.6 tok/s peak (5.46x over AR); HE 10-prompt bench averages 129.5 tok/s at DDTree budget=22, single RTX 3090, 24 GB. 3.43x over autoregressive and 2.8x over the best public SGLang AWQ number.

TL;DR - Peak 207.6 tok/s DFlash vs 38.0 tok/s AR (5.46x). HE bench: 129.5 tok/s mean at DDTree budget=22. - 3.43x over autoregressive Q4_K_M baseline (37.78 tok/s). - 2.8x vs SGLang AWQ reference (46.6 tok/s) on the same RTX 3090. - 128K context fits on 24 GB. Q4_0 KV + rolling 4096-slot target feature buffer. 134.78 tok/s at ctx=131072. - Only ggml. Never link libllama. ~2000 LOC C++/CUDA in libdflash27b.a around ggml_gated_delta_net.

Why the experiment exists Qwen3.5-27B is a hybrid model: every 4th layer is full softmax attention, the rest (48 of 64) are Gated DeltaNet. SSM state cache alongside the KV cache. That combo doesn't have a good single-3090 decode path today: llama.cpp has the GGUF loader and ggml_gated_delta_net, but no DFlash speculative decoding. vLLM / SGLang ship z-lab's DFlash integration, but only on BF16 (54 GB, doesn't fit on 24 GB). AWQ target on SGLang runs plain AR at 46.6 tok/s but can't host a BF16 draft + DDTree state in 24 GB. z-lab's reference benchmarks run BF16 on B200, 54+ GB class. We wanted the fastest single-3090 decode on a 24 GB card. The answer: port only the graph glue to ggml, keep the existing DeltaNet kernel, run DFlash block-diffusion draft with a DDTree verifier, compress KV to Q4_0 for long context.

From autoregressive to DDTree Same 10-prompt HE bench, n_gen=256, Q4_K_M target, BF16 draft. AL = average accept length. DDTree paper reports +35-42% over chain DFlash on pure-attention Qwen3 variants. On our hybrid Q4_K_M/RTX 3090 combo we see +15% over chain. The gap comes from Q4 quantization flattening the draft softmax, partially patched with a chain pre-seed in build_ddtree. Draft-ceiling bound, not verify-memory bound: a bigger tree won't help, only a better draft will.

Key wins - f16 intermediate cache: half the bandwidth, +5% at the same tree budget. Bit-identical to AR at 40 tokens. - Persist-write kernel (ggml_gated_delta_net_tree_persist): skips a 9 ms ggml_cpy per step, +11%. - target_feat compaction after sibling accept: unlocked real tree rescue on 9/10 prompts. - extract_draft_topk reverse bug: sort_heap + cmp_greater already produces descending order; an extra std::reverse was sending the worst candidate to the tree root. One-line fix. - verify_logits_buf overflow: sized vocabq_len but DDTree reads vocab(budget+1) past budget 15. Silent memory corruption. One-line size fix.

128K context on 24 GB Flash-attention in ggml-cuda supports Q4_0 K+V natively, so KV compression is just ggml_cpy with the F32->Q4_0 quantizer on write. 8x over f16. Combined with a rolling 4096-slot target_feat ring, target_feat shrinks from 6.6 GB to 0.2 GB at 128K. Tradeoffs: Q4_0 KV costs ~3% quality on HE (AL 8.56 -> 8.33) at short context, dramatically better at long ones. Only thing that lets 128K fit on 24 GB.

Prefill Short prompts (2048 tok): auto-bump to PREFILL_UBATCH=192. 13K prefill: 40.9 s -> 15.07 s (2.7x, ~913 tok/s).

What comes next - Daemon mode: keep the model resident, first-token latency 10 s -> ms. - Temperature / top-k sampling in verify. Currently greedy-only. - Q5_K_M / Q6_K: better quants should recover most of the ~30-point accept gap vs BF16. - Full llama.cpp integration: qwen35 arch, llama-speculative-dflash.cpp wiring. - Metal/Vulkan: not planned. CUDA only, anyone who wants Metal can fork.

As soon as Qwen3.6-27B comes out, we'll do the same for it. Repo in the first comment (open source, MIT).

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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We built a standalone C++/ggml speculative decoder for Qwen3.5-27B Q4_K_M with a DFlash block-diffusion draft. 207.6 tok/s peak (5.46x over AR); HE 10-prompt bench averages 129.5 tok/s at DDTree budget=22, single RTX 3090, 24 GB. 3.43x over autoregressive and 2.8x over the best public SGLang AWQ number. TL;DR - Peak 207.6 tok/s DFlash vs 38.0 tok/s AR (5.46x). HE bench: 129.5 tok/s mean at DDTree budget=22. - 3.43x o…

Cool. If I understand correctly though, the single-kernel only works on a single GPU right- no parallelism support to go Q8 on 2x3090?

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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We built a standalone C++/ggml speculative decoder for Qwen3.5-27B Q4_K_M with a DFlash block-diffusion draft. 207.6 tok/s peak (5.46x over AR); HE 10-prompt bench averages 129.5 tok/s at DDTree budget=22, single RTX 3090, 24 GB. 3.43x over autoregressive and 2.8x over the best public SGLang AWQ number. TL;DR - Peak 207.6 tok/s DFlash vs 38.0 tok/s AR (5.46x). HE bench: 129.5 tok/s mean at DDTree budget=22. - 3.43x o…

> Temperature / top-k sampling in verify. Currently greedy-only

This is interesting, doesn't greedy-only decoding slow down speculative decoding significantly?

In theory the probability of needing resampling (rejection) is (p_real-p_sample)+, which should be much smaller with non-greedy distribution

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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"Local AI should be a default, not a privilege: private data, no per-token bill, no vendor lock-in. The hardware to run capable models already sits on desks. The software to run those chips well doesn't."

So figure out how to run it on Vulkan instead of requiring the user to be locked into expensive CUDA cards.

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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"Local AI should be a default, not a privilege: private data, no per-token bill, no vendor lock-in. The hardware to run capable models already sits on desks. The software to run those chips well doesn't." So figure out how to run it on Vulkan instead of requiring the user to be locked into expensive CUDA cards.

Why doesn’t Apple?

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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No you did not. You got 207 tok/s on an RTX 3090 with speculative decoding which, generally speaking, is not the same quality as serving the model without it.

Greedy-only decoding is even worse. There's a reason every public model comes with suggested sampling parameters. When you don't use them, output tends to degrade severely. In your case simply running a 14B model on the same hardware with the tools you compare against would probably be both faster and produce output of higher quality.

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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"Local AI should be a default, not a privilege: private data, no per-token bill, no vendor lock-in. The hardware to run capable models already sits on desks. The software to run those chips well doesn't." So figure out how to run it on Vulkan instead of requiring the user to be locked into expensive CUDA cards.

Why doesn’t Apple?

After the steep increase in sales of Mac Studios specifically for LLMs, I'm waiting for Apple to release a frontier level model, optimized for highest end of apple hardware (probably would be hardware locked by a certain neural processor needed (which would then lock the memory config).

The built in Apple Intelligence right now is very small, but even just having a small LLM you know is always there, online, fast and ready makes you think about building app differently. I would love the context to expand from the meager ~4K tokens.

Re: We got 207 tok/s with Qwen3.5-27B on an RTX 3090

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Why did they focus on that particular graphics card and not others, and not common laptops used by developers, or something like that?

That's a pretty popular budget friendly GPU people use for local AI, it actually seems like an excellent choice IMHO.
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