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Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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iono if “steal” has the right valence here

Eh, he stole a bunch of money with a crypto rugpull, can’t really give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.

"I am giving every cent of that crypto money to charity" - https://twitter.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2044114434348724351

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town.

A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement:

> WARNING DANGER CAUTION

> GET THE F** OUT

> YOU WILL DIE

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Is anyone surprised? I'm reminded of how I felt during the NFT craze. LLMs are extremely powerful when used with deliberate care. Gas Town is the exact opposite of what is needed to actually do useful things in prod. I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #7

Is anyone surprised? I'm reminded of how I felt during the NFT craze. LLMs are extremely powerful when used with deliberate care. Gas Town is the exact opposite of what is needed to actually do useful things in prod. I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess.

this is why transparency matters with anything that touches cloud AI. if your routing user prompts through any API, users should know exactly whats being sent, where it goes, and whether it gets stored or used for training. Burying that in terms of service isnt good enough

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, he stole a bunch of money with a crypto rugpull, can’t really give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.

"I am giving every cent of that crypto money to charity" - https://twitter.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2044114434348724351

I don't see how that is relevant? If he really did steal that money, it's not his to give.

You can't take someone's money and then not only not give it back, but also give it away.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, he stole a bunch of money with a crypto rugpull, can’t really give him the benefit of the doubt anymore.

"I am giving every cent of that crypto money to charity" - https://twitter.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2044114434348724351

Donating ill-gotten gains does not legitimize them. This isn't a confusing concept...

Also, it's cryptocurrency. There is literally no burden to prove that this money was donated, or what "charity" even means in this context.

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