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Open Source Isn't Dead

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Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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> The reasoning provided by their CEO, Bailey Pumfleet, is that AI has automated vulnerability discovery at scale,

That sounds like an excuse. The real reason is probably that it's hard to make a viable business out of developing open source.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

> Closed source software won't receive any reports

Not from the automated repo scanners, but bug bounty programs can generate a lot of reports in my experience. AI tools are becoming a problem there, too, because amateurs are drawn to the bounties and will submit anything the AI hallucinates.

Closed source companies can (and should!) also run their own security audits rather than passively waiting for volunteers to spend their tokens on it.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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> The reasoning provided by their CEO, Bailey Pumfleet, is that AI has automated vulnerability discovery at scale, That sounds like an excuse. The real reason is probably that it's hard to make a viable business out of developing open source.

Exactly. I respect their decision to go closed source if that's what they need to do to make it a viable business, but just be honest about it. Don't make up some excuse around security and open source.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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I have an open source project and started receiving a lot of security vulnerability reports in the last few months. A lot of them are extremely corner cases, but there were some legit ones. They're all fixed now. Closed source software won't receive any reports, but it will be exploited with AI. So I definitely agree with the message of this article.

> Closed source software won't receive any reports Not from the automated repo scanners, but bug bounty programs can generate a lot of reports in my experience. AI tools are becoming a problem there, too, because amateurs are drawn to the bounties and will submit anything the AI hallucinates. Closed source companies can (and should!) also run their own security audits rather than passively waiting for volunteers to s…

+1, at this point all companies need to be continuously testing their whole stack. The dumb scanners are now a thing of the past, the second your site goes live it will get slammed by the latest AI hackers

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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> The reasoning provided by their CEO, Bailey Pumfleet, is that AI has automated vulnerability discovery at scale, That sounds like an excuse. The real reason is probably that it's hard to make a viable business out of developing open source.

I'd think it's also much easier to spin up a (in some area) slightly better clone and eat into their revenue.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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> The reasoning provided by their CEO, Bailey Pumfleet, is that AI has automated vulnerability discovery at scale, That sounds like an excuse. The real reason is probably that it's hard to make a viable business out of developing open source.

I mean, it's hard to make a viable business regardless of if the tech is OSS or not, but it's often seen as more challenging this way.

Re: Open Source Isn't Dead

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At the same time, I heavily support open-source and contribute a lot, but I can't necessarily agree that security-through-obfuscation doesn't play a major role in slowing down attacks. Cloudflare have based its whole security being closed-source (for example on its anti-bot mechanism) to be hard to reverse engineer, and they remain leaders as of today with few serious security breaches.

Some things just can't be truly secure as well, ddos protection is mostly a guessing/preventive game, exposing your firewall config/scripts will make you more vulnerable than NOT.

If your codebase isn't exposed, attackers are constrained by the network and other external restrictions which greatly reduce the number of possible trials, even with a swarm of residential proxies, it's not the same at all from inspecting a codebase in depth with thousand of agents and all models.

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