Golden eagles' return to English skies
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#3The reintroduction of Red Kites to the UK has been a huge success. I don't get particularly excited by birds normally, but regularly seeing such large creatures (almost 2m wingspans) curving through the sky is nothing short of majestic. They're almost reminiscent of dragons.
I wonder if I'll get to feel the same about golden eagles soon too.
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You say that - but its not your pocket being picked... when you have to put food on your families table, you probably aren't as worried about some bird nobodies ever heard of. No farmers - No food.
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You say that - but its not your pocket being picked... when you have to put food on your families table, you probably aren't as worried about some bird nobodies ever heard of. No farmers - No food.
1. Eagles are very well-known.
2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb.
3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
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Just FYI, you should have sympathy.
There's an enormous difference between weighing the pros and cons and coming to a different conclusion than somebody else, and having no sympathy for somebody else.
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Just FYI, you should have sympathy. There's an enormous difference between weighing the pros and cons and coming to a different conclusion than somebody else, and having no sympathy for somebody else.
Sympathy doesn't simply mean "understanding"; that's one small aspect of the definition of a more complex word that also denotes emotional reflection.
Having weighed the pros and cons, I have come to the conclusion that the correct amount of (emotional) sympathy for the position of "we should kill all the eagles because farmers deserve only endless profits, never (minor) costs" is infinitesimal.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say that - but its not your pocket being picked... when you have to put food on your families table, you probably aren't as worried about some bird nobodies ever heard of. No farmers - No food.
1. Eagles are very well-known. 2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb. 3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
4. Farmers are already facing great difficulties from economic shocks like Brexit, Covid, Ukraine and Hormuz in a short span of time, and further strain is unwelcome.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say that - but its not your pocket being picked... when you have to put food on your families table, you probably aren't as worried about some bird nobodies ever heard of. No farmers - No food.
1. Eagles are very well-known. 2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb. 3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
1) This particular spotted big breasted eagle is hardly known and of little importance culturally.
2) Farm margins are very thin and its not up to you to dictate what an acceptable loss is.
3) Government has successfully in the past used hunting bounties to tame wilderness and increase farming productivity. The eradication of wolves in the great plains turned unremarkable scrub land into the most successful and productive era in farming the earth has ever seen. Maybe think about that next time you have a bite to eat and thank your local farmer.
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Eagles are very well-known. 2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb. 3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
4. Farmers are already facing great difficulties from economic shocks like Brexit, Covid, Ukraine and Hormuz in a short span of time, and further strain is unwelcome.
Eagles are also dealing with other stuff (arguably more significant-- e.g. habitat loss), but that's an irrelevance to this issue.
The potential predations of a small number of eagles nationally will make very little difference to the enormous number of sheep kept by a large number of farmers. They can handle the strain, and if it's really somehow too much, there are mitigations short of extinction available to them.