Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
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Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
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Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#2How dare you
The MetroLink, planned since 2000 ... has consumed €200 million of public money
Amateurs, the UK's HS2 is estimated to cost £100 billion
Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#3How dare you The MetroLink, planned since 2000 ... has consumed €200 million of public money Amateurs, the UK's HS2 is estimated to cost £100 billion
Indeed. One of the train stations here in Berlin is currently about 20 years behind schedule and costs were €154 million 5 years ago: https://newsroom.strabag.com/en/press-releases/group/2022-10...
Actually worst-run European nations would be, what, probably Hungary if you're only counting EU and Russia if you're not limited to EU?
Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#4How dare you The MetroLink, planned since 2000 ... has consumed €200 million of public money Amateurs, the UK's HS2 is estimated to cost £100 billion
To be clear, thus far that cost is _before anything is built_ (except for one station box which will not now be used because it's in the wrong place for the current design). It does look like it will finally go ahead now, but it had been a long, long road to get there.
Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#5How dare you The MetroLink, planned since 2000 ... has consumed €200 million of public money Amateurs, the UK's HS2 is estimated to cost £100 billion
Indeed. One of the train stations here in Berlin is currently about 20 years behind schedule and costs were €154 million 5 years ago: https://newsroom.strabag.com/en/press-releases/group/2022-10... Actually worst-run European nations would be, what, probably Hungary if you're only counting EU and Russia if you're not limited to EU?
So, over the next few years, it is planned to more than double the capacity of Dublin's commuter rail network. Pretty much all of the commuter rail network meets at Connolly station (closest thing Dublin has to a central station; for historical reasons it kind of has two barely-connected ones), which has only three through platforms and is already overloaded at peak times. Worryingly, no-one has even started talking about upgrading Connolly yet. The commuter rail network upgrade is split into four largely concurrent stages, and none of them _on their own_ are likely to break anything, but when they're all done it seems completely impossible that Connolly could cope.
There are worse things than expensively and slowly upgrading a station. Such as not doing that even though it will obviously be needed by, at latest, 2028 or so.
(I _think_ maybe Irish Rail's rationale is that people on the western and south-western commuter lines will transfer to Metrolink a few stations before Connolly, but see above; Metrolink stubbornly persists in not existing.)
Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#6How dare you The MetroLink, planned since 2000 ... has consumed €200 million of public money Amateurs, the UK's HS2 is estimated to cost £100 billion
To be clear, thus far that cost is _before anything is built_ (except for one station box which will not now be used because it's in the wrong place for the current design). It does look like it will finally go ahead now, but it had been a long, long road to get there.
i’ve observed with trepidation how terribly ireland has been run in the last 5 years or so. that’s when i’ve been on the ground. with that experience it’s easy to understand why the country is the way it is and will remain so for the foreseeable future. in private conversations, i’ve lamented with rigorous arguments based on both the history of the island, their hatred for the english, the number one priority of their struggle for independence (ie for the expulsion of the english and not a maturity into statehood), etc.
ireland, like all independent african states, doesn’t know what statehood is, its people (aka elite) not practiced in statecraft. but its the configuration of the world that they also get a god-given right to atrociously run and mismanage some god-given resources. it’s a terrible thing to experience from within. a nightmare!
Re: Is Ireland the worst run country in Europe?
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be clear, thus far that cost is _before anything is built_ (except for one station box which will not now be used because it's in the wrong place for the current design). It does look like it will finally go ahead now, but it had been a long, long road to get there.
i’ve observed with trepidation how terribly ireland has been run in the last 5 years or so. that’s when i’ve been on the ground. with that experience it’s easy to understand why the country is the way it is and will remain so for the foreseeable future. in private conversations, i’ve lamented with rigorous arguments based on both the history of the island, their hatred for the english, the number one priority of thei…
cont: compare the speeches and comments of other leaders at the just ended wef summit to the comments of the irish prime minister at the same summit. it’s as if ireland is insulated from the threats facing europe. we’re not, but that’s how oblivious and non-chalant our first citizen is. it’s heartbreaking to watch.