LLM scraper bots are overloading acme.com's HTTPS server
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#2I suspect part of the issue is that people are still using things like `acme.com` and `demo.com` as an example domain in their documentation and tests instead of relying on `example.com` which is reserved exactly for this purpose [0]
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#3> The LLM companies are not picking on me in particular, they are pounding every site on the net.
Why is not this a criminal offense? They are hurting business for profit (or for higher valuation as they probably have no profit at all).
Why are corporations allowed to do with impunity what could land even a teenager years in prison? Is there no rule of law anymore?
The five-year and ten-year penalties kick in only when the government can show the offense caused at least $5,000 in losses across all victims during a one-year period. https://legalclarity.org/what-are-the-punishments-for-a-ddos...
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#4Series of Chinese LLM scrapers kept PortableApps.com running slow and occasionally unresponsive for 2 weeks.
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#5There are plenty of local LLMs out there run by humans that play nice. It's not the LLMs that are the problem. It's the corporations. That's the commonality. Human people aren't doing this. These corporate legal persons are a much more dangerous and capable form of non-human intelligence with non-human motives than LLMs (which are not doing the scraping or even calling the tools which are sending the HTTP requests). And they have lobbied their way to legal immunity to most of their crimes.
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#6> The LLM companies are not picking on me in particular, they are pounding every site on the net. Why is not this a criminal offense? They are hurting business for profit (or for higher valuation as they probably have no profit at all). Why are corporations allowed to do with impunity what could land even a teenager years in prison? Is there no rule of law anymore? The five-year and ten-year penalties kick in only wh…
Because might makes right and any entity with the power to legally put up a fight is in on the game (or wants to be)
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#7> The LLM companies are not picking on me in particular, they are pounding every site on the net. Why is not this a criminal offense? They are hurting business for profit (or for higher valuation as they probably have no profit at all). Why are corporations allowed to do with impunity what could land even a teenager years in prison? Is there no rule of law anymore? The five-year and ten-year penalties kick in only wh…
We've already established that computer crime and IP laws apply to normies and not tech companies
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#8> The LLM companies are not picking on me in particular, they are pounding every site on the net. Why is not this a criminal offense? They are hurting business for profit (or for higher valuation as they probably have no profit at all). Why are corporations allowed to do with impunity what could land even a teenager years in prison? Is there no rule of law anymore? The five-year and ten-year penalties kick in only wh…
Normative vs prerogative state [1]. See US v. Swartz compared to Meta use of LibGen for Llama
Re: LLM scraper bots are overloading acme.com's HTTPS server
#9There are plenty of local LLMs out there run by humans that play nice. It's not the LLMs that are the problem. It's the corporations. That's the commonality. Human people aren't doing this. These corporate legal persons are a much more dangerous and capable form of non-human intelligence with non-human motives than LLMs (which are not doing the scraping or even calling the tools which are sending the HTTP requests).…
> Human people aren't doing this
Who do you think writes these scrapers? Well, I mean aside from the vibe coded ones.
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#10Bot traffic is crazy even for smaller sites, but still manageable. I was getting 2,000 visitors a day on my infrequently updated website, but after I blocked all the bots via Cloudflare it went back to the normal double digit visitor count.