Live data from Hacker News

Robots eat cars

telemetry.endeff.com

1–10 of 125 posts

Re: Robots eat cars

#2
> Steer-by-wire

Thinking back to case-studies around the Therac-25 [0], I would like to pre-emptively highlight the differences between:

1. Technique X is unsafe.

2. Technique X is unsafe because too much can go wrong even with the best intentions.

3. Technique X is unsafe without strong QA and interlocking safety measures, and there's too much economic pressure for the manufacturer to cut corners.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

Re: Robots eat cars

#5
> The Fremont factory lines that built those cars are converting to manufacture Optimus humanoid robots: one million units per year at $20,000 each, with public sales beginning in 2027.

Sure, why not? Seems just as likely as Tesla having 1 million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2026. =)

Re: Robots eat cars

#6
post #2

> Steer-by-wire Thinking back to case-studies around the Therac-25 [0], I would like to pre-emptively highlight the differences between: 1. Technique X is unsafe. 2. Technique X is unsafe because too much can go wrong even with the best intentions. 3. Technique X is unsafe without strong QA and interlocking safety measures, and there's too much economic pressure for the manufacturer to cut corners. [0] https://en.wik…

Moreover, Technique X does not actually provide any significant value.

The whole steer-by-wire in CT happened because Musk wanted a yoke as the control system. And a yoke requires progressive steering which is impractical without steer-by-wire.

Re: Robots eat cars

#7
One million robots to be manufactured in a year - one million robots which will likely be obsolete within five years (if that, I wouldn't be surprised if they're dead on arrival).

I don't know the figures for Earth's resources and their sustainability, so this may be a naive take, but I'm always left with the impression that these organisations want to speedrun the depletion of the planet.

Re: Robots eat cars

#8
post #6
post #2

> Steer-by-wire Thinking back to case-studies around the Therac-25 [0], I would like to pre-emptively highlight the differences between: 1. Technique X is unsafe. 2. Technique X is unsafe because too much can go wrong even with the best intentions. 3. Technique X is unsafe without strong QA and interlocking safety measures, and there's too much economic pressure for the manufacturer to cut corners. [0] https://en.wik…

Moreover, Technique X does not actually provide any significant value. The whole steer-by-wire in CT happened because Musk wanted a yoke as the control system. And a yoke requires progressive steering which is impractical without steer-by-wire.

> does not actually provide any significant value

If that were true, it would not explain why other manufacturers are headed the same direction. The CT is not the only steer-by-wire vehicle.

Re: Robots eat cars

#10

> The Fremont factory lines that built those cars are converting to manufacture Optimus humanoid robots: one million units per year at $20,000 each, with public sales beginning in 2027. Sure, why not? Seems just as likely as Tesla having 1 million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2026. =)

I heard it will be 100 billion robotaxis on the road by the end of 2026!
Post reply on HN