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Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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My disclaimer (and bias) is I'm a hardcore linux dev and never touch windows unless its forced upon me. So with that said, here's my thoughts.

"Myth 1: It's Easier to Bootstrap a Project In Rails"

Maybe, but still I doubt its cross platform (without headaches) - can you bootstrap MVC on Linux or Mac. This would mean you're married to the Windows Env (not a bad thing necessarly if thats what you decide you want).

"Myth 3: It's Better to Develop with RoR Because it's Open Source"

You say the complete .Net stack is open source? If so this really surprises me, considering microsofts rep, so I'd ask for links and is the C# compiler open source?

Finally, where's the advantage? ( I know you say your not trying to say this ) Why should people use something new unless there are reasons for it being not just as good but better at such and such? This whole post was about how MVC is just as good as Rails, which probably is true, but if you're a good dev and know your tools then Symfony2 or Django is probably just as good as well. The only reason to switch is when people start showing exceptionally new capabilities that make the devs life easier by trying out the new thing. Thats what rails did back in the day.

Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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Look, I've been trying to explain this to my junior developer who has always used windows boxes. "None of my instructions translate to windows. But they translate to everything else but windows." Its just plain and simple that microsoft's salesperson driven strategy is to create a little windows island. Thats why microsoft is anti-developer. Maybe not anti-microsoft_developer, but most of us have just given up on windows. Its absolutely nothing personal.

Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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TL;DR This guy claims he was previously a free software enthusiast, but then he grew up and now he's a microsoft enthusiast.

Yay for stereotyping free software enthusiasts as basement-dwelling pre-pubescents.

Other than that, the article is pretty light on insightful content.

Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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Mostly fair points technically and a reasonable conclusion, but..

I want to be fair here – there's more than one camp in the Rails world

To be fair, quit with the linkbaity titles that tar everyone with the same brush. I could find some developers to spout off some garbage and write "BS That Dumb .Net Developers Actually Believe In" except I wouldn't, because it's ridiculous, unfair, and antagonistic. It's as simple as adding the word "some", really.

Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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I am a Ruby on Rails person! I will tell you some things.

I am not going to give up OS independence, on the development or server side.

I am not going to give up editor/IDE independence.

Microsoft is not seen as ahead of the curve with respect to web technologies, and this is reflected in its developer community.

Until these problems are fixed, the MS stack can pretty much go kick rocks.

Re: Things that Ruby on Rails people tell you

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post #5

TL;DR This guy claims he was previously a free software enthusiast, but then he grew up and now he's a microsoft enthusiast. Yay for stereotyping free software enthusiasts as basement-dwelling pre-pubescents. Other than that, the article is pretty light on insightful content.

I know a few guys that follow this pattern.
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