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CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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> “For women who aren’t considered high risk, if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,” Lubarsky said.

I mean, if I were a choosing person and I could choose to have a human radiologist review AND an AI review I think I would prefer that. 3/10,000 sounds like a very good rate but a false negative on a cancer diagnosis is life threatening, no?

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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> “For women who aren’t considered high risk, if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,” Lubarsky said. I mean, if I were a choosing person and I could choose to have a human radiologist review AND an AI review I think I would prefer that. 3/10,000 sounds like a very good rate but a false negative on a cancer diagnosis is life threatening, no?

At a certain point the false positives start creating more harm than trying to further reduce the false negatives (which is, perhaps counterintuitively, eventually true for even the most serious of risks). Whether that's the case here depends on a lot of information not in the article.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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Surely they could offer a cheaper 'unregulated, no guarantee' AI interpretation with a confidence rating, and an optional follow-up 'are you sure?' expert assessment at full price.

OTOH they're probably planning to charge full price anyway, but massively reduce costs, because, profit.

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post #2

> “For women who aren’t considered high risk, if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,” Lubarsky said. I mean, if I were a choosing person and I could choose to have a human radiologist review AND an AI review I think I would prefer that. 3/10,000 sounds like a very good rate but a false negative on a cancer diagnosis is life threatening, no?

"The AI is wrong only 3:10,000 times" is a statement screaming out for the follow up question "how often are the humans wrong". Maybe 3:10,000 is astonishingly good, maybe humans are 10x or 100x better, right now I have no real way of knowing short of a literature review in a field I know nothing about.

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> Sandra Scott, MD, CEO of the One Brooklyn Health, a small hospital facing tight margins, agreed with this line of thinking, according to Crain’s.

Does this CEO of a small hospital realize that their hospital will take the legal responsibility if there's no doctor to sue for malpractice?

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> Sandra Scott, MD, CEO of the One Brooklyn Health, a small hospital facing tight margins, agreed with this line of thinking, according to Crain’s. Does this CEO of a small hospital realize that their hospital will take the legal responsibility if there's no doctor to sue for malpractice?

I’m sure there’s a golden parachute somewhere around to save her.

Re: CEO of largest public hospital says he's ready to replace radiologists with AI

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post #4

Surely they could offer a cheaper 'unregulated, no guarantee' AI interpretation with a confidence rating, and an optional follow-up 'are you sure?' expert assessment at full price. OTOH they're probably planning to charge full price anyway, but massively reduce costs, because, profit.

You can already cash pay to have imaging in my state, without any prescription, then send the images off to some voodoo witch in the Congo if you want. Seems to be the way to do it, just have the hospital do imaging and then the patient does with the image whatever they want. Then the hospital has no liability except in the case they did not image it correctly.
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