Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
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Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#2(1988)
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#3How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX?
Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#4This should be linked as the original post:
https://ir.cwi.nl/pub/5998
It says 1988 there.
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#5How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
I would say roff, not LaTeX
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#6It's a neat project. Write cross platform desktop apps in C. Presumably it would not have been very usable in practice in the late 1980s, because of all the OTHER system interfaces that still weren't portable, even if the windowing system was available in a portable way.
I can remember the subsequent period in which Java desktop apps were relatively common. They had cross platform UI by default. But the problem was:
1) cross platform GUIs are ugly by default, compared to fully native desktop apps, because they don't entirely replicate the affordances or the style of the platform;
2) in the Java case, it seemed heavyweight to install and sluggish compared to native apps;
Point 2 would not have applied to stdwin, as it would have produced small compiled binaries I suppose, but Point 1 would have.
So in the end, obviously web apps (and partly, Flash) took over the niche that "cross platform desktop apps" had once tried to fill, and then it was something of a dead zone until Electron, as far as I remember.
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#7This should be linked as the original post: https://ir.cwi.nl/pub/5998 It says 1988 there.
the code from 1995
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#8It's a neat project. Write cross platform desktop apps in C. Presumably it would not have been very usable in practice in the late 1980s, because of all the OTHER system interfaces that still weren't portable, even if the windowing system was available in a portable way. I can remember the subsequent period in which Java desktop apps were relatively common. They had cross platform UI by default. But the problem was:…
The other popular option for cross-platform UI apps was Tcl/Tk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tk_(software)
...which even leaked into other language ecosystems like Python:
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#9How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young
> 32 years old
As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
Re: Stdwin: Standard window interface by Guido Van Rossum [pdf]
#10How old is this? 1989 or something like that? Guido was probably quite young when he wrote it. Looks like LaTeX? Edit: Someone else wrote 1988 which I suppose makes sense, as the latest reference at the end is from 1988 too. So then Guido was 32 years old.
> quite young > 32 years old As a ~20 year old this feels so weird to read. I'm still considered young in ~10 years?
I’m nearly 64.
Back when I was a teenager, people in their 20s were “old farts.”
Nowadays, I look at people in their 40s, as “kids.”
Here’s my first ever engineering project (1987): https://littlegreenviper.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/TF30...
I was 25, at the time, and a fairly newly-minted EE.