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Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Post by kerlap10 »

What use is it to understand the physical world if all investments are misallocated to the virtual world? Perhaps the AI will detect that there is a housing shortage and politicians will finally believe it because AI said so?

Or is it to accelerate Skynet?

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Post by pingou »

Yann LeCun said a number of things that are very dubious, like autoregressive LLMs are a dead end, LLMs do not have an internal world model, and this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFi1TPiB058 (in french) that an IA cannot find a strategy to preserve itself against the will of its creator.

As a french, I wish him good luck anyway, I'm all for exploring different avenues of achieving AGI.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Post by fennecfoxy »

Why world model? To emulate how we became sentient?

A "world" is just senses. In a way the context is one sense. A digital only world is still a world.

I think more success is in a model having high level needs and aspirations that are borne from lower level needs. Model architecture also needs to shift to multiple autonomous systems that interact, in the same ways our brains work - there's a lot under the surface inside our heads, it's not just "us" in there.

We only interact with our environment because of our low level needs, which are primarily: food, water. Secondary: mating. Tertiary: social/tribal credit (which can enable food, water and mating).

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Post by bluefirebrand »

sofixa wrote: post #3

If he's right (that LLMs cannot achieve AGI, but what he's working on can, and does), this would be huge for AI and humanity at large. Hope it puts to bed the "Europe can't innovate" crowd too.

I'm still just so surprised any time I encounter people who think AI will be overall good for humanity

I pretty strongly think it will only benefit the rich and powerful while further oppressing and devaluing everyone else. I tend to think this is an obvious outcome and it would be obviously very bad (for most of us)

So I wonder if you just think you will be one of the few who benefit at the expense of others, or do you truly believe AI will benefit all of humanity?

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Post by sofixa »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #8
sofixa wrote: post #3

If he's right (that LLMs cannot achieve AGI, but what he's working on can, and does), this would be huge for AI and humanity at large. Hope it puts to bed the "Europe can't innovate" crowd too.

I'm still just so surprised any time I encounter people who think AI will be overall good for humanity I pretty strongly think it will only benefit the rich and powerful while further oppressing and devaluing everyone else. I tend to think this is an obvious outcome and it would be obviously very bad (for most of us) So I wonder if you just think you will be one of the few who benefit at the expense of others, or do…

> So I wonder if you just think you will be one of the few who benefit at the expense of others

It's not a zero sum game, IMO. It will benefit some, be neutral for others, negative for others.

For instance, improved productivity could be good (and doesn't have to result in layoffs, Jevon's paradox will come into play, IMO, with increased demand). Easier/better/faster scientific research could be good too. Not everyone would benefit from those, but not everyone has to for it to be generally good.

Autonomous AI-powered drone swarms could be bad, or could result in a Mutually Assured Destruction stalemate.

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