Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
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Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#2Grade school has never been kind to genuine writers. It reminds me of SAT essays that favored formulaic writing, because guess what: the grading criteria were formulaic!
I think grading in general can be stymying for students' motivation and creative drives.
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#3Grade school has never been kind to genuine writers. It reminds me of SAT essays that favored formulaic writing, because guess what: the grading criteria were formulaic! I think grading in general can be stymying for students' motivation and creative drives.
I had fun with those because they only care about the quality of the writing not the content so I would make sure that none of my facts or references were real.
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#4If you're just going to use software to judge the output of students then why don't we all just keep them at home? I have a computer at home and it seems like everyone from the teachers to the school board have just abdicated their responsibility. This doesn't sound like a system that needs to be maintained.
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#5What would assessment look like if we started from "how do humans actually learn and communicate" rather than "how do we catch cheaters"?
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#6I've started do this on social media. I got "called out" after using big words or using a - in a sentence. So now I write less good on purpose, so whatever I commented doesn't get drawn into a sidetrack off-topic witch-hunt.
As soon as someone yells "witch" you cannot disprove you're not one, and I've even had people put my handwritten comments through "AI detector" websites that "proved" they were AI (they weren't). It literally just highlighted two popular English phases.
LLMs were trained on sites like HN and Reddit, so now if you write like a HN or Reddit commentator, you sound like AI...
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#7I've started do this on social media. I got "called out" after using big words or using a - in a sentence. So now I write less good on purpose, so whatever I commented doesn't get drawn into a sidetrack off-topic witch-hunt. As soon as someone yells "witch" you cannot disprove you're not one, and I've even had people put my handwritten comments through "AI detector" websites that "proved" they were AI (they weren't).…
I put a piece of text in one and the only line it flagged is the one line I actually wrote.
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#8What would assessment look like if we started from "how do humans actually learn and communicate" rather than "how do we catch cheaters"?
> I've been thinking about this in product contexts too.
Have you considered using your own words to express those thoughts?
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#9The more students read, and the more variety they read, the better they will write.
This will likely be valuable for AI skills too.
Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI
#10I've started do this on social media. I got "called out" after using big words or using a - in a sentence. So now I write less good on purpose, so whatever I commented doesn't get drawn into a sidetrack off-topic witch-hunt. As soon as someone yells "witch" you cannot disprove you're not one, and I've even had people put my handwritten comments through "AI detector" websites that "proved" they were AI (they weren't).…
I have never really gotten the impression that HN or Reddit commentators write in any particular way overall.
LinkedIn, OTOH....