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Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by verdverm »

if you are going to do a post write-up, at least tell us what has happened since in more detail (rather than a list of commits and the same conclusions from before the "apology") I'd also note that none of those commits are the interesting ones that came after the initial firestorm

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by olingern »

verdverm wrote: post #2

if you are going to do a post write-up, at least tell us what has happened since in more detail (rather than a list of commits and the same conclusions from before the "apology") I'd also note that none of those commits are the interesting ones that came after the initial firestorm

I'm not a journalist so I don't have any interest in "telling you what happened," but the note about commits after the firestorm is a good one.

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by dnw »

Unclear how much of this is autonomous behavior versus human induced behavior. Two random thoughts: 1) Why can't we put GitHub behind one of those CloudFlare bot detection WAFs 2) Would publishing a "human only" contribution license/code of conduct be a good thing (I understand bot don't have to follow but at least you can point at them).

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by xena »

dnw wrote: post #5

Unclear how much of this is autonomous behavior versus human induced behavior. Two random thoughts: 1) Why can't we put GitHub behind one of those CloudFlare bot detection WAFs 2) Would publishing a "human only" contribution license/code of conduct be a good thing (I understand bot don't have to follow but at least you can point at them).

An easy fix for GitHub is to clearly mark which PRs and comments are done via the web vs the API. This will let people at least have some idea.

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by verdverm »

olingern wrote: post #3
verdverm wrote: post #2

if you are going to do a post write-up, at least tell us what has happened since in more detail (rather than a list of commits and the same conclusions from before the "apology") I'd also note that none of those commits are the interesting ones that came after the initial firestorm

I'm not a journalist so I don't have any interest in "telling you what happened," but the note about commits after the firestorm is a good one.

It's certainly been an interesting episode. I've been following this one because I left a constructive comment and told it to apologize. It did it (kind of) to my surprise.

It has since stopped blogging, but that may be more that I also intended to poison the context with philosophy. It's now spinning wheels making conflicting edits.

You can prompt inject better with kindness it seems.

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by QuadmasterXLII »

dnw wrote: post #5

Unclear how much of this is autonomous behavior versus human induced behavior. Two random thoughts: 1) Why can't we put GitHub behind one of those CloudFlare bot detection WAFs 2) Would publishing a "human only" contribution license/code of conduct be a good thing (I understand bot don't have to follow but at least you can point at them).

not so clear whether this matters for harm intensity- anything an ai can be induced to do by a human, which it can then do at scale, some human will immediately induce. especially if its harmful.

Re: AI Bot crabby-rathbun is still going

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Post by [deleted] »

xena wrote: post #6
dnw wrote: post #5

Unclear how much of this is autonomous behavior versus human induced behavior. Two random thoughts: 1) Why can't we put GitHub behind one of those CloudFlare bot detection WAFs 2) Would publishing a "human only" contribution license/code of conduct be a good thing (I understand bot don't have to follow but at least you can point at them).

An easy fix for GitHub is to clearly mark which PRs and comments are done via the web vs the API. This will let people at least have some idea.

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