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From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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>n the US, most newspaper chains are controlled by hedge funds milking them dry, or by billionaires

I really miss the days of the fairness-doctrine. Also at one time there was a limit of the number of Media Companies one can own. We need those laws back.

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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Who coined the phrase, "legacy media?" Sounds like techy-speak to make it sound old so people move to social media bullshit.

This is a piece written by Jeff Jarvis who was a founder of Entertainment Weekly and then a long time professor focused on innovation and journalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jarvis

So, it's a term of art, and i'll even agree that it's got a bit of a tech-y pejorative lean to it, but it's in wide use, and Jarvis certainly isn't solely a person who comes from tech.

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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>n the US, most newspaper chains are controlled by hedge funds milking them dry, or by billionaires I really miss the days of the fairness-doctrine. Also at one time there was a limit of the number of Media Companies one can own. We need those laws back.

The internet has made Bezos rich and newspapers poor. It was practically unavoidable in a society where greed has become the norm.

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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The problem isn't that news outlets favor the wrong side (as TFA seems to assert) but that they favor any side at all. Once they abandon the attempt to report the facts and start trying to shape public opinion, they're going to get caught in a tug-of-war and eventually torn to shreds.

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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>n the US, most newspaper chains are controlled by hedge funds milking them dry, or by billionaires I really miss the days of the fairness-doctrine. Also at one time there was a limit of the number of Media Companies one can own. We need those laws back.

Hear, hear!

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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The problem isn't that news outlets favor the wrong side (as TFA seems to assert) but that they favor any side at all. Once they abandon the attempt to report the facts and start trying to shape public opinion, they're going to get caught in a tug-of-war and eventually torn to shreds.

Wrong. Journalists have an obligation to favor the truth.

If a party is not being honest or truthful, they should disfavor that party very strongly. That party is acting against the spirit of what journalism ought to be about, and is making itself a traitor to democracy, the people, and journalists.

The WaPo lost significant double digit percent of subscribers because it spiked a Kamala endorsement. That was a clear and obvious and correct position to take, and that favoring was objectively clear a choice. Sitting on the fence pretending like both parties are equal is a great misdeed sometimes. Your obligation as journalists does include assessing & grasping a situation; it's more than being a steganographer for both sides, it does mean actually considering and helping shape opinion to steer people away from lies and misportrayals, it involves reminding people of whatever downsides they are at length.

Re: From watchdogs to mouthpieces: Washington Post and the wreckage of legacy media

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>n the US, most newspaper chains are controlled by hedge funds milking them dry, or by billionaires I really miss the days of the fairness-doctrine. Also at one time there was a limit of the number of Media Companies one can own. We need those laws back.

The internet has made Bezos rich and newspapers poor. It was practically unavoidable in a society where greed has become the norm.

Don't forget the people who voted for "Get the Government off the [rich] people's back". Ronald Reagan and every subsequent government since. Neoliberalism. The rest of the Anglosphere followed suit.

It (Neoliberalism) was supposed to re-energize American Capitalism. Instead it gave birth to Rentier-Capitalism. See Brett Christophers for a more detailed analysis.

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