China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
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Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#2I'm old enough to remember when Wired was excited about free market capitalism. Apparently competition is bad when solar panel manufacturers do it.
To be charitable, they may be trying to meet an insanely misinformed American audience half-way, and wake them from their fossil slumbers before they surrender their global leadership.
But if that amounts to just half misinforming them, then it's still not great.
Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#3True current title: China’s Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Huge Mess That Might Save the World
Does HN strip huge?
Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#4https://archive.is/0alye
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Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#5I'm old enough to remember when Wired was excited about free market capitalism. Apparently competition is bad when solar panel manufacturers do it. To be charitable, they may be trying to meet an insanely misinformed American audience half-way, and wake them from their fossil slumbers before they surrender their global leadership. But if that amounts to just half misinforming them, then it's still not great.
Same in some European countries.
"Free market is great, MERCOSUR, yay"
Then China comes with affordable EV's and all of a sudden the free market ain't so great anymore, and Chinese EV's have a punishment tax.
Why? Because China's government allegedly subsidized the EV manufactures too much?
Take a look at Germany, how many times have they save the big car manufactures with tax payer money? no difference, and until some years ago, the German cars we desirable in China. Well, not anymore.
Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#6True current title: China’s Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Huge Mess That Might Save the World Does HN strip huge ?
OP probably had to remove some words, due the 30 character limit on submission headlines.
Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#7My first solar pannel was given to me in Takilma ,Oregon, early 90's, and performed the magical feat of restarting my camper bus
by charging it's battery.
That panel was purchased by the guy I was aprenticing with from the founder of Real Goods, who he knew personaly, the founder of Real Goods was the worlds first retailer of solar pannels, and the only seller for years.
Now that solar power is fully verticaly integrated, ie: solar is building solar, the real economics of that will be felt in every market, and bucking it is a lost battle.
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Re: China's Renewable Energy Revolution Is a Mess That Might Save the World
#10I'm old enough to remember when Wired was excited about free market capitalism. Apparently competition is bad when solar panel manufacturers do it. To be charitable, they may be trying to meet an insanely misinformed American audience half-way, and wake them from their fossil slumbers before they surrender their global leadership. But if that amounts to just half misinforming them, then it's still not great.
Competition reduces profits, which is good for consumers, but bad for investors. China has a bit of a problem with hype-driven investment, where something becomes a new trend (solar energy, bike sharing, electric cars...), lots of new companies get started, followed by oversupply, followed by price wars, followed by bankruptcies. Of course every company hopes that it will be the others that go bankrupt, so during the price-war phase, they take on a lot of debt to keep operating just a bit longer. In the worst case, there could be a wave of bankruptcies developing into a full-blown economic crisis.